Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 02:32:52 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@snark.thyrsus.com> Cc: Brian Behlendorf <brian@hyperreal.org>, Don Wilde <dwilde1@ibm.net>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: branding Message-ID: <17474.901791172@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:45:44 EDT." <19980730044544.A16278@snark.thyrsus.com>
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Eric, I don't think that anyone would argue that advocacy is needed and needed badly - anyone who has watched the ascension of Microsoft using mediocre software and a not-so-mediocre marketing department knows that empirically by now. And I've also spent 20 years in this business and don't like losing either, so you're only preaching to the converted here. What I *don't* like, however, is the fact that you seem to be bent on factionalizing the free Unix community with the same degree of zeal that the commercial OS vendors who brought us the GUI wars and the SYSV/BSD split did with the commercial Unix community. Rather than seeking to divide though the imposition of various arbitrary barriers, you should be seeking to UNITE this community, Eric! I don't care how many of your own self-imposed rules you have to bend in the process, just get everyone pushing behind and in the same direction and you WILL be on the road to winning. Engaging in petty factionalism or accusing anyone who doesn't slavishly back the cause of Linux of not seeing the "big picture" with respect to marketing is as foolish as it is naive and I meant what I said when I stated that I'd take you to the mat over the issue if necessary. So I ask you - are you with us or against us? If you're with us, then PROVE it by helping to push *all* free software not just that which fits your somewhat limited definition of "marketable" free software. If you're against us, then at least have the guts to state it publically so that we can figure out some way of working around you. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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