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Date:      Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:53:40 -0500
From:      Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org>
To:        Alan Eldridge <alane@geeksrus.net>, Stijn Hoop <stijn@win.tue.nl>
Cc:        "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net>, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>, FreeBSD ports list <ports@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ports/33777: samba WITH_CUPS pulls in cups meta-port, not cups-base
Message-ID:  <0a1915053030c12FE8@mail8.nc.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020111145511.GA36269@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>
References:  <20020111021009.A77067@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20020111155118.C25678@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20020111145511.GA36269@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>

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On Friday 11 January 2002 09:55 am, Alan Eldridge wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 03:51:18PM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> >On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 08:48:45AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
> >
> >I hadn't looked at the port yet, glad to hear that! However, Alan
> > suggested that your last commit be backed out... I was arguing that IMHO
> > that's not a good idea.
>
> Well, it won't work without cups-lpr if you have cups printing.
>
> But, we *could* leave my change in and add a message saying to install
> cups-lpr if cups is needed.
>
> This change was mainly to stop the "CUPS broke my printing" threads
> that show up from time to time (usually directed at KDE, but we have
> fixed that, since KDE really doesn't need cups-lpr).

Why not just fix the CUPS system itself so that if CUPS has never been 
configured but standard printing has (you could check to see whether 
/etc/printcap has been altered, or see if any of the uncommented sd= files 
exist or something), then the /usr/local/bin (CUPS) version of the lp tools 
just turn around and exec the /usr/bin (standard) version of the printing 
tools.

I personally think it is -very- surprising to have a SAMBA (or KDE) install 
suddenly break a printing setup that has been working for years, and it would 
be much better for the Samba printing to fail until the user "does something" 
to make it work than to have a Samba install--which may not even be intended 
to share a printer in the first place--break a seemingly unrelated subsystem.


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