From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 14:24:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7098310658EC for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linnemannr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9FA8FC17 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so3984119pbb.13 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:24:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WXZ1zpjPIp+GI0KzHxALTcy6gjhMAUpm5oiS262+uyo=; b=oTOkH2Tb9Tjjgd6pzPGn+FHI6jylt20/2EpNZZoFqjlirR8SrU/tGizmBKtav6RQf8 SQRwzOCXlvtT14M3QKPrOs5nmZm0AUh0OzzjI9wV/bDomYaGO7/IFq1+YCYTGSfVd6Z3 SZU4mxqpi9kU+w84PUICKukfHR8Cmh7vPkcMzZl5ioe25Yr59Raryod0yQFH79F1IStz a3FjjYK5045cYtJHMNrcXHp/Ml6UQLMDMZHwasWp15FCP3LUhVQpCyfrDwIasSu1MjyO owDMod23tRj1UHjrT4PWuIvR8mQJbbyZmErSKuk0eQs9Q/1IcQpLjsxqYz0pfpZLGVha KWjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.232.201 with SMTP id tq9mr11121313pbc.70.1340375097813; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: linnemannr@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.230.37 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:24:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120622042703.GB24912@hemlock.hydra> References: <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20120621015237.GB58187@neutralgood.org> <20120622042703.GB24912@hemlock.hydra> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:24:57 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TxeSHaKs2B3DDc3EIchzbr62BK0 Message-ID: From: Reid Linnemann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Why Clang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:24:58 -0000 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > I disagree with the assessment by others that FreeBSD is in some way > effectively a subsidiary of its corporate users, but it does have > corporate users, as well as non-corporate users. =A0Just as it must > reasonably see to the needs of the individuals who use it, so must it > also reasonably see to the needs of those corporate users, especially > when some of those corporate users' employees are key developers for the > base system (to the significant benefit of the rest of us). =A0Thus, sayi= ng > that a particular set of conditions having an impact on commercial > sponsors of FreeBSD has "zero bearing on FreeBSD itself" is just . . . > incorrect. And I would like to stress on this point that, when I referred to corporate sponsorship in an earlier post, I was thinking specifically about the sponsorship of employing developers that keep the system moving forward, not necessarily monetary donations. The foundation does need money, but the software is doomed if no one is gainfully employed to maintain and enhance it. I think there is an altruistic fiction that many people subscribe to that free software is merely the result of the generosity of developers producing code of their own volition and on their own spare time and "giving it away," and from that viewpoint the act of considering concerns of a sponsoring entity amounts to "selling out." The reality is much different and much more complex, as you well know.