From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 15 17:21:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from queasy.outpost.co.nz (outpost-1.inspire.net.nz [203.79.88.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0264D37B4EC for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 56345 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2001 01:21:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO outpost.co.nz) (192.168.1.199) by outpost-4.inspire.net.nz with SMTP; 16 Feb 2001 01:21:37 -0000 Message-ID: <3A8C809C.E01A7B8C@outpost.co.nz> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:21:32 +1300 From: Craig Harding Organization: Outpost Digital Media Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: treznor@sunflower.com, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reserved IP Addresses References: <20010216010722.91758.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tyler McGeorge wrote: > That's your ADSL modem. When I traceroute on my box, > my second hop is a 10. address. No it's not. My ADSL modem doesn't have an IP address. I'm speaking PPPoE to the modem, which is speaking PPPoATM to the far end. The modem in the middle doesn't get an IP as the PPP link only has two ends, one at my Unix box and one at the far end. There's no "middle" to get an IP address. My machine gets 210.55.70.x, the far end (telco) has 210.55.70.254. The 192.168 address comes after that. I happen to know for a fact (from talking to my friend who runs a local ISP) that Telecom NZ uses 192.168.x.x addresses internally for various parts of their ADSL network, and even have things sufficiently misconfigured to announce those addresses into his router (which caused him great surprise initially, he couldn't figure out why the office machines on a 192.168.x.x subnet behind NAT suddenly couldn't talk to anything - Telecom had announced a route for that subnet). -- C. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message