From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 18 20:40:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F64C37B545; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 13Ekj4-0005o2-00; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:40:50 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA52721; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:40:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:40:49 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Color ls Message-ID: <20000719044049.A52681@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20000719041804.A52522@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@freebsd.org on Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 08:28:54PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Oh, this is just ludicrous. "ls -G" as multimedia? Please get a sense of > perspective. That's my point. When friends of mine who have been sysadmin's for years complain about how plain-vanilla and generic the basic FreeBSD install is, and how much work it is to get it dialed in and 'friendly', i really don't know what to tell them. I babble on (like i am now) about how BSD is just more secure, or more refined, or whatever... when really i am wondering 'gee, have we managed to alienate another potential user here?' Everyone on the list is glad to point out that they 'must not be as advanced as they claim' but the fact is, they aren't idiots either. That's my job. ;) if i had trouble getting color to work on cons25 or even an xterm, i wouldn't be especially optimistic about something advanced, like playing mpegs, or even sound. I spent 2 months getting sound and my zip drive to work. I only stuck with it because BSD is more reliable. When i finally solved it, i was almost ready to go back to linux. I was lucky. And so i am contributing to EasyBSD to try to make it easier for others like me. > > It's time to sell out. Colorls isn't THAT big of a deal if it makes people > > happy. Adding it will make more people happy than leaving it out will. > > "Adding it"? Okay, so you *are* out of touch :-) I meant 'fixing it', if that is the right choice of words. To sum it all up, i get frustrated when 'progress' is alluded to as being a crutch for 'lusers'. Computers are a tool to make life easier. Why the hell does liking colors (which help the brain organize information better) warrant being labeled as a luser? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message