From owner-cvs-all Sat Jul 21 11:59:21 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B7737B401; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:59:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13187; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:59:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6LIx5s19480; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:59:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:59:05 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha dokern.sh Message-ID: <20010721205905.A19446@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200107211738.f6LHckO97874@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010721195231.A18836@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010721111928.A97882@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010721204314.A19196@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010721115412.A98367@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010721115412.A98367@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:54:12AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:54:12AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 08:43:14PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:19:28AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 07:52:31PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > Dare I suggest to have dokern.sh remove: > > > > options DEC_KN8AE # AlphaServer 8200/8400 (Turbolaser) > > > > > > We would actually like to support these machines in 5.0. *Especially* > > > since we'll have working SMP. In light of that, do you still feel we > > > should remove Turbolaser support? > > > > From the *floppy* yes. Not in a generic sense. > > Actually I don't know if the TurboLaser even has a floppy drive. Can we > wait to hear Matt Jacob's opinion? Depends what TL you have. Some have a fd, some don't (like the AS8400 I 'have'). All of them have a CD drive. So axing the TL from the floppy is not an issue. > > If dropping support becomes an issue I would also throw out DEC3000-series > > altogether (now someone will go for my throat for sure). > > Oh, that's been cut out of the install floppy for quite some time. I know, but I would even support dropping the Turbochannel boxes altogether. > > The (nasty) alternative is to have multiple bootfloppies for alpha, > > selectable per machine type. Not nice.. > > Not really all that nasty if we really need it. I'm afraid that it might not be avoidable for much longer. (??). > Although another approach would be to add a third boot floppy where the > loader has 4th code to load every module on the floppy (much like NT > does). Then we could add back all the bits w/o corresponding modules. Right... that would be a neat idea. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte "Youth is not a time in life, it is a state of mind" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message