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Date:      Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:59:05 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha dokern.sh
Message-ID:  <20010721205905.A19446@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20010721115412.A98367@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:54:12AM -0700
References:  <200107211738.f6LHckO97874@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010721195231.A18836@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010721111928.A97882@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010721204314.A19196@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010721115412.A98367@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:54:12AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 08:43:14PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:19:28AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 07:52:31PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > > > Dare I suggest to have dokern.sh remove:
> > > > options         DEC_KN8AE               # AlphaServer 8200/8400 (Turbolaser)
> > > 
> > > We would actually like to support these machines in 5.0.  *Especially*
> > > since we'll have working SMP.  In light of that, do you still feel we
> > > should remove Turbolaser support?
> > 
> > From the *floppy* yes. Not in a generic sense.
> 
> Actually I don't know if the TurboLaser even has a floppy drive.  Can we
> wait to hear Matt Jacob's opinion?

Depends what TL you have. Some have a fd, some don't (like the AS8400 
I 'have'). All of them have a CD drive. So axing the TL from the floppy
is not an issue.

> > If dropping support becomes an issue I would also throw out DEC3000-series
> > altogether (now someone will go for my throat for sure).
> 
> Oh, that's been cut out of the install floppy for quite some time.

I know, but I would even support dropping the Turbochannel boxes altogether.

> > The (nasty) alternative is to have multiple bootfloppies for alpha, 
> > selectable per machine type. Not nice..
> 
> Not really all that nasty if we really need it.

I'm afraid that it might not be avoidable for much longer. (??).

> Although another approach would be to add a third boot floppy where the
> loader has 4th code to load every module on the floppy (much like NT
> does).  Then we could add back all the bits w/o corresponding modules.

Right... that would be a neat idea.

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