Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:13:15 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@nsu.ru> Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/alpha drivers.conf Message-ID: <20030515171315.GB8876@freebie.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20030515152805.GA63529@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20030515014303.GA53992@dragon.nuxi.com> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1030514233000.14706M-100000@fledge.watson.org> <20030515033930.GD20512@elvis.mu.org> <20030515062249.GA7577@sunbay.com> <20030515152805.GA63529@regency.nsu.ru>
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On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:28:05PM +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 09:22:49AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 08:39:30PM -0700, Jon Mini wrote:
> > > Robert Watson [rwatson@FreeBSD.org] wrote :
> > > > I think they'll be needed for i386 for a while yet, but when it comes to
> > > > the newer 64-bit platforms, I tend to agree. I don't even know if you can
> > > > buy a sparc64 box with a floppy drive at this point... It's hard for
> > > > me to imagine anyone shipping an ia64 or amd64 machine with a floppy
> > > > disk drive but without a bootable CDROM...
> > >
> > > The last time I used a boot floppy was over a year ago when I had
> > > made some changes to the boot code and needed to make sure it still
> > > worked for floppies.
> > >
> > > I can see the argument for supporting floppies on i386, but future
> > > platforms don't require it. I think that these days it is harder
> > > to find a floppy than a blank CDR, but then maybe that's because I
> > > have an Apple laptop.
> > >
> > Not everyone has a CD-R/RW burner, you know that? I'm more
> > in a mood to remove the support for modern drivers from BOOTMFS
> > and driver floppies, assuming that if one has a modern enough
> > hardware she also have a CD-ROM drive. Killing functionality
> > like this would just decrease the number of potential FreeBSD
> > installations (not to say users).
>
> I second this. Floppies are going to be in use for quite a long time
> just yet. Lots of people prefer to install from FTP while booting from
> floppies to save the disc for something more useful than bootstrap
> platform for one-time installation.
<SIGH!!!>
David refers to the FreeBSD/alpha port. If someone would care to verify
their facts one would know that DEC never even considered floppy as a
distribution medium. For exactly the reasons we see right now. We already
had to axe support for several server models from the bootfloppys.
PLEASE TAKE THIS ${DEITY}forsaken discussion onto -chat, this is of
no use here.
Wilko
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