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Date:      Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:44:45 +0700
From:      Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@regency.nsu.ru>
To:        Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Package system flaws?
Message-ID:  <20020715214445.C53266@regency.nsu.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20020714164304.GA32774@lizzy.catnook.com>; from jos@catnook.com on Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 09:42:42AM -0701
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 09:42:42AM -0701, Jos Backus wrote:
> 
> Part of me still thinks it's a pity that we don't have a decent scripting
> language (such as Ruby) as part of the base OS. Windows has Visual BASIC for

We did have a very powerful one until recently -- Perl.  I guess the
fact it was removed from the base is for a very good reason.

> Applications - all due respect to the awk creators and maintainers, but surely
> we can do better than awk/sh?

Oh please, can you show us something essential for base enough that
could not be implemented in a sh/sed/awk way?  I somewhat doubt it.

'cmon, it's pretty clear that Perl or Ruby is more of an overhead than
of worth.  Traditionally, UNIX lived for 30+ years without need for a
monster like Perl or Ruby, in the base, clearly showing us that
sh/awk/sed is a [very] decent scripting facility.

./danfe


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