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On Oct 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote:

> On 5 October 2012 08:54, Ulrich Sp=F6rlein <uqs@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
>> Seriously? How about we leave i386 as is for the embedded folks and =
just
>> move forward with amd64. Any improvements made on our i386 support =
are
>> useless to about 98% of our users. It's 2012 people ...
>=20
> You can pry i386 from my cold, dead hands. Especially if intel tablets
> and such appear.
>=20
> I still install i386 on most of my laptop/netbook devices because they
> don't come with more than 2GB of RAM.
>=20
> Embedded, indeed..

	+1 for my netbook (2GB RAM) and router/gateway/firewall (4GB =
RAM). With Atom processors you're pretty much stuck with i386, in part =
because amd64 emulation mode still sucks a lot.
Thanks,
-Garrett=