From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 14 20:49:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from avarice.riverstyx.net (hq-port-97.harbour-dhcp-pool.infinetgroup.com [207.23.37.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C561517E; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:49:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unknown@riverstyx.net) Received: from avarice (unknown@avarice [207.23.37.97]) by avarice.riverstyx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03139; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:46:14 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tani Hosokawa To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NT vs Linux vs FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <70188.932009916@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, Linus is officially committed to it, IIRC. Go read the web page that was given in the e-mail... I quote: "Everyone needs a good source management system. Since we are a Linux based company, we are especially tuned to the needs of the Linux team: Linus really needs good source management. The current Linux development model has some problems and Linus needs tools to help solve those problems. Without a decent distributed source management system, all of the merging and tracking work falls on Linus' shoulders and that is getting to be way too much for any one person, even someone like Linus. The goal of the Bitkeeper effort is to provide tools that help the Linux kernel effort, and more specifically, help Linus. If the tool is good enough for the Linux effort, it is more than capable enough for just about any other task. The problem with most systems is that they don't scale. They all work great for 1-5 developers. It doesn't matter which one you choose. However, they all tend to fall apart when you have 1000 developers. Since we have experience in source management, having designed and implemented most of Sun's TeamWare source management system, we are quite familiar with the scaling problem and feel that we can provide a better, more scalable and more reliable answer. We did it before, and this one is better." and "Release plans are delayed due to Linus' desire to have the LOD feature supported in version 1.0." If that's not enough, go skim the linux-kernel archives. On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Wrong. They have Larry McVoy's "BitKeeper", which addresses a > > Who's "they", and please don't answer "The Linux community" or > anything else which is equivalently vague to the point of absurdity, > please be specific. Which group(s) are using it and what are the URLs > pointing to on-line proof of this in each case? > > I ask these questions because your statement strongly implies that > this technology is in active use now by "them" and that contradicts > other statements I heard at USENIX, making the question of tangible > proof somewhat relevant in deciding which story is true. > > Also please note that I'm not asking "which people will be using > bitkeeper" or "which people are thinking of using bitkeeper", I'm > asking who the current, active poster-children users of this product > are. --- tani hosokawa river styx internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message