From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 11 12:21:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833AB37B400 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patriarch.dnsalias.org (adsl-65-69-3-83.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [65.69.3.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4E243E6E for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noackjr@compgeek.com) Received: from COMPGEEK ([127.0.0.1]) by patriarch.dnsalias.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.2600.1); Sun, 11 Aug 2002 14:21:07 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Jon Noack" To: "'Brad Knowles'" Cc: Subject: RE: why? Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 14:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c2416c$3c672020$0a01a8c0@COMPGEEK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2002 19:21:07.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E4FDD50:01C2416C] Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org thanks for the info -- yeah, although i realize now that i was being ambiguous, i meant why does the smtp server take so long to send messages from the one account (and sometimes doesn't seem to send them at all -- no longer in the queue but never arrive at destination) while the other goes immediately. the delay is definitely at the smtp server, but i haven't quite figured out why it takes 6+ minutes to process a message that is queued while i sent other messages that were immediately processed as soon as they hit the queue. oh well, looks like i should setup a freebsd box for smtp instead of using the windows box from work... thanks again, jon -----Original Message----- From: Brad Knowles [mailto:brad.knowles@skynet.be] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 1:39 PM To: noackjr@rice.edu; freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why? At 3:38 AM -0500 2002/08/11, Jon Noack wrote: > why does it post immediately and reliably from one account when it > takes forever to post the other (and then only about half the time)? It all depends on the server and the route that the message is taking. Then your come-back copy depends on the return path. > both > emails are sent through the same client and the same smtp server. i > wish i didn't have to use Microsoft for work -- i think this is > another of bill's tricks... Let's look at the headers of the first message, specifically at the date/time stamps: | Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) by | mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7205572F; | Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from | owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Okay, the message was submitted at 03:16:27 -0500, and here it's already been received by the FreeBSD machines, passed through the mailing list server, and on it's way back out within six-and-a-half minutes. That is, assuming that all servers are in perfect time sync. If they're not, the overall end-to-end time could easily be just a matter of a few seconds. | Received: from patriarch.dnsalias.org | (adsl-65-69-3-83.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [65.69.3.83]) | by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A2343E75 | for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:22:59 -0700 (PDT) | (envelope-from noackjr@rice.edu) This would seem to be the place where most of the delay occurred. However, it would be difficult to determine what caused the delay. It could be a problem with the sending system, or it could be a problem with the receiving system. But without more information (including the logs of both the sending & receiving systems), it's hard to tell what was the real cause. | Received: from COMPGEEK ([127.0.0.1]) by patriarch.dnsalias.org with | Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.2600.1); Sun, 11 Aug 2002 03:16:27 -0500 And that's the original submission. Now, let's look at the headers of the second message: | Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) by | mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F83A55B10; Sun, 11 Aug | 2002 01:32:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from | owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Well, this message was received, processed, and re-transmitted in just five seconds, if you believe the time stamps. | Received: from COMPGEEK ([127.0.0.1]) by patriarch.dnsalias.org with | Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.2600.1); Sun, 11 Aug 2002 03:32:49 -0500 Here's the original message submission. Looking at the other headers (which I omitted), it would appear that the paths are pretty much identical between the two messages. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. 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