Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:55:31 +0530 From: Subhro <subhro.kar@gmail.com> To: "sammy sumer" <sammy.sumer@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What FreeBSD users really want Message-ID: <b2807d040607220425x14c0e33dr593c359cb19b2711@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8f0d62060607220403j599c1131xfcfb38e6b18c7c6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f0d62060607220403j599c1131xfcfb38e6b18c7c6c@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Sammy, It is really nice that you have told us yourt insight on the matter. I would also like to express my ideas. Please read my replies inline. On 7/22/06, sammy sumer <sammy.sumer@gmail.com> wrote: > > Every Linux Distributor in the world is hard at work reinventing the > interface and making the Linux as user friendly as possible but we're still > dogged by turn of the century hassle with our FreeBSD. This is not correct. The only distros which are working hard to get the interface more friendly are thoes which has some kind of earning. Just for example, if you check slackware, they still have a barebones interface. Secondly FreeBSD community only looks after the base tree. And as per my knowledge, the interface is something external. > > Here is what I would fix: > > 1. Reinvent the installer and interface. > This is not a bad idea. But again is that really worth the trouble. The existing interface works perfectly. So why fix something which is not broken. BTW, by reinventing if you mean to say that make the installer go graphical, then there is a small problem. You are making the installer more heavy which really has no value. > > 2. Integrate a PHP shell into the core of the system. > This would be a very good idea if you have something call FreeBSD-Web_Edition which is not the case. FreeBSD hosts all kinds of services. Therefore the more things u put in stock OS, there would be more points of failure. BTW why do you feel that the existing port system is not adequate? > PHP is by far the most popular computing language in the world. Why not > have a shell called PHP shell. So lots of web developers out there can > easily create shell scripts in PHP syntax to automate and run programs on > FreeBSD. Perl is no less popular. Specially Perl had been around far longer than PHP. But FBSD does not have perl in stock installations either. Primarrily for the idea of "Keep It Simple". > > Who wants to learn bash or sh scripting? They are by far the least popular > and ugly programming language in the world. It may be ugly, but its a really fast way to implement small operations. And FYI, we system admins swear by shell scripts. > > It is astounding that FreeBSD developers have not clued in to the fact that > millions of backend webmasters could easily migrate and adopt FreeBSD as > their O.S of their choice because of PHP. Do you have this documented? > > 3. Content Management Website > > Your current website looks very ordinary and doesn't make any impression for > anyone visiting your site for the first time. > Well we recently got the website look changed. Did you like the earlier view? Would you please tell us what you mean by ordinary and what kind of website would be more acceptable to people in generaly. Please consider the fact that sometimes all you have is a text based browser to refer to the handbook when you are stuck up in the middle of an installation. So please provide your comments considering the same. > > Don't get me wrong, I love FreeBSD and I always remain loyal to it. I love > the unique port collection concept for third party application installation. > Of course not. The biggest asset of FreeBSD is its users. So as a user you have full rights to express your insight. Thanks and Best Regards Subhro -- Subhro Kar Security Engineer iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. Dhanshree Bldg, 1st Floor Plot XI-16, Sector V Salt Lake City 700091 India
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