From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jul 12 11:18:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D20F1511B for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id LAA04199; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id LAA16183; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:17:17 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn2.utah.xylan.com) by omni.xylan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1 (xylan engr [SPOOL])) id AA18210; Mon, 12 Jul 99 11:17:15 PDT Message-Id: <378A312D.ACEAFA07@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:17:17 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Filipi-Martin Cc: Lanny Baron , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Certification...again References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Adrian Filipi-Martin wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Lanny Baron wrote: > > > Hello Fellow FreeBSD'ers, > > I would just like to say that it irks me to death that I must spend > > $16,500.00 (canadian) to take a 23 week long immersion course to > > be "prepared" for MCSE, Oracle and A+ certification. Although the > > school (private) I am going to will touch on solaris for a whole week, > > many people I have talked to on IRC tell me I am wasting my time. > > > > However I am not. Here, in Toronto at least. Many companies > > looking to hire people want to see 1) a university degree or 2) a ton > > of experience they can call and get references on the applicants. 3) > > Certification from recognized systems (for a lack of a better term). > > Well, you might check out the USENIX certification debate. I'm of > two minds on the whole issue, but I'm sure that any certification that they > settle upon would apply pretty well to FreeBSD. There are other "professional training" organizations that teach classes in UNIX programming, system administration, network administration, etc. All of these apply to FreeBSD in the general sense, though I doubt many of them use FreeBSD in the classroom exercises. You could easily take such a class then run home each night to re-implement the exercises on FreeBSD. Personally I fail to understand why having a college degree is viewed with such disdain by so many of the people asking for FreeBSD certification. What's wrong with educating yourself? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message