From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Apr 7 14:44:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785E137B424 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:44:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from hamlet.nectar.com (hamlet.nectar.com [10.0.1.102]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2C918D38; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nectar@localhost) by hamlet.nectar.com (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f37LiJK87413; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:44:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:44:19 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Brett Glass Cc: Mike Meyer , Dale Chulhan - Home , "chat@FreeBSD.ORG" , My List , The Trinidad and Tobago Microsoft BackOffice Users Group Subject: Re: Win NT vs UNIX ( cross fire ) Message-ID: <20010407164419.C87371@hamlet.nectar.com> References: <3ACF5BED.86A4FB58@uwi.tt> <3ACF5BED.86A4FB58@uwi.tt> <15055.27944.187865.22558@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010407152644.0455d9b0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010407152644.0455d9b0@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 03:28:45PM -0600 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 03:28:45PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > Microsoft's relatively minor > change to Kerberos -- similar to the minor one they made to PPP/CHAP -- > was quickly accommodated by the industry and caused no major problems > (just annoyance). It is still causing operational difficulties that I would classify as more than an annoyance. See the ietf-krb mailing list archives. Certain GSS-API applications are broken, and unfortunately many Windows applications are written with assumptions that don't hold when a non-Microsoft KDC is involved. The industry will _never_ adopt some of these modifications -- they are very Microsoft/ActiveDirectory specific. Other modifications are still fiercely debated. Nonetheless, I applaud Microsoft for adopting Kerberos. This is something they promised that they would do back in 1993, and I seriously think that ultimately it will make the world a better place :-) Cheers, -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message