From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jan 28 13:01:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14800 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:01:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14789 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:01:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10827; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:01:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd010667; Thu Jan 28 14:01:14 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18701; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:01:02 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199901282101.OAA18701@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: TowerJ for FreeBSD To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:01:02 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, nate@mt.sri.com, java@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901272308.QAA24350@mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Jan 27, 99 04:08:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > > And I think this "shim" is already well documented in the KLD for > Actually no. Many of my X programs would not run when I switched to > Solaris, and few of them had 'OS' dependant portions of code. I'm betting this was prior to 2.4, before they implemented the system call support for select and other calls that couldn't be masked by dynamic linkage in static binaries. > No, I'm not willing to let you change the definition of success. Being > able to run a completely native Oracle application in SVR4 emulation is > *NOT* the same problem as running a FreeBSD binary that links agains the > Oracle libraries. They are entirely different problems, with some > slight overlap. > > Stick to the issue you raised. You are actually the one who raised the issue. I wouldn't have posted at all about it, but there were two problems: 1) You made a counter-claim without supporting evidence. 2) You basically swatted down someone who was willing to work on the problem, instead of fretting about its size. #1 I could have ignored. > > The part that's linked with the Solaris SHIM library. E.g.: > > What SHIM library? You're changing the the topic again. ??? No, I'm not. It's an implemetnation detail of linking against foreign libraries. > > LKM's were mine. > > And they weren't finished. And, I've got your email to prove it. They were alpha quality. There is a big difference between an alpha that works and an unfinished frob that doesn't. > > The FreeBSD kern/init_main.c and linker set based SYSINIT code is > > mine. Booted your FreeBSD box lately? > > And they weren't finished. I've got email from you to prove it. Again, alpha quality stuff. In both cases, the code had to get committed before it could mature successfully. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message