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Date:      Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:04:23 -0600
From:      David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
To:        Pete French <pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk>
Cc:        mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@freebsd.dk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Disk I/O problem in 4.3-BETA 
Message-ID:  <200103140404.f2E44Ne16415@grumpy.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from Pete French <pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk>  of "Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:51:11 GMT." <E14cnKZ-0005ZI-00@dilbert.fcg.co.uk> 

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Pete French writes:
> All very interesting, but a small point has been forgotten
> hasnt it ? The way I read this thread is that until recentlly
> write-caching was enabled by default and has now been disabled (hence
> the original obseravtion of disc performance dropping).
> 
> I havent noticed that FreeBSD has a bad reputation for loss of data
> in the event of am power outage, and my own experience backs this up.
> As so many people appear to have been running it this way by default until
> now you might have though that if it were a serious problem in reality then
> people would have noticed by now ?

Well, I am an ex-Linux user who got fed up with Linux trashing my disk 3
times one week. Each time (kernel panics) the damage was bad enough fsck
(e2fsck?) deleted a lot of critical files making a wipe/reinstall the
fastest way back to a running system. This was shortly after the release
of FreeBSD 2.0.0. Remember it well because that is when I became a 
FreeBSD user. Hmm, probably 6 years ago this month.

Have watched Linux from "outside" since then. Noticed I was not the 
only one losing data. From what I've seen the Linux solution was not to 
to fix a faulty design but to hack it until it doesn't lose as much.

Linux was/is very proud of their ext2fs speed. Clearly at the expense of
reliability. Oddly enough that machine got 600k Bytes/sec thruput on
Linux, but 900k Bytes/sec on FreeBSD 2.0.0-RELEASE. 240 MB Western
Digital IDE drive.

IMO the most reliable settings are the correct thing to do in spite of
simpleminded magazine authors who will "do a shootout" of Linux vs.
FreeBSD using only the stock settings.


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David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net
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