From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:47:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8247116A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmsrelay01.mx.net (cmsrelay01.mx.net [165.212.11.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 080F443D2F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ddutoit@usa.net) Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.130) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 21 Jan 2004 22:47:02 -0000 Received: from uwdvg013.cms.usa.net [165.212.8.13] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.11E) with ESMTP id 311iauwU80121M30; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:46:59 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 165.212.8.13 AUTO ddutoit@usa.net uwdvg013.cms.usa.net Received: from 205.166.108.115 [205.166.108.115] by uwdvg013.cms.usa.net (USANET web-mailer CM.0402.7.03); Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:46:59 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:46:59 -0500 From: Danie du Toit To: X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.7.03) Message-ID: <860iauwU85216S13.1074725219@uwdvg013.cms.usa.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: how to tell if my ISP is blocking email & web ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:47:08 -0000 Just run tc= pdump / ethereal (or any sniffer) on a PC at your place and telnet throug= h the Internet to your IP address on ports 110, 80, 25. If you can = see this packets, your ISP is not blocking it. freebsd-ques= tions-request@freebsd.org wrote: Send freebsd-questions mailing list submiss= ions to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To subscribe or unsubsc= ribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/l= istinfo/freebsd-questions or, via email, send a message with subject = or body 'help' to freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org You c= an reach the person managing the list at freebsd-questions-owner@free= bsd.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is mor= e specific than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: How to mount a FreeBSD-5.1 partition = from FreeBSD-4.9 (Jerry McAllister) 2. passwd command problem. (f= alaki@ce.sharif.edu) 3. RE: Unable to mount CDrom in 5.2, reading pas= t threads is of no help (fbsd_user) 4. Re: ipfw/nated stateful ru= les example (Jonathan Chen) 5. latency (Stas) 6. (cmustard@nyc.rr= =2Ecom) 7. Re: Using FreeBSD to burn in computers (Jeremy Faulkner) <= BR>8. new install of 5.2 ISO aft hour system freeze cold reboot only = option (cmustard@nyc.rr.com) 9. ALSA drivers (Stas) 10. Re: ALSA = drivers (Kenneth Culver) 11. Re: USB sound device questions (multiple= s!) (Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]) 12. Re: latency (Lance E. Lott) 1= 3. Re: latency (Benjamin Walkenhorst) 14. Re: latency (Cordula's Web)= 15. Re: ALSA drivers (Cordula's Web) 16. Re: IPFW and Dynamic Ru= les (Dave McCammon) 17. Re: passwd command problem. (Jonathan Chen) <= BR>18. Monolithic kernel possible in 5.2? (Peter Schmiedeskamp) 19. R= e: ALSA drivers (Thomas T. Veldhouse) 20. how to tell if my ISP is bl= ocking email & web ports (fbsd_user) --------------------= -------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:52:32 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister &= lt;jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Subject: Re: How to mount a FreeBSD-= 5.1 partition from FreeBSD-4.9 To: jfrherve@ing.uc3m.es (Juan Rodrigu= ez Hervella) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20= 0401211752.i0LHqX421637@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plai= n; charset=3Dus-ascii > > On Wednesday 21 January 2004 = 17:26, Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2= 004 15:52:25 +0100 > > > > Juan Rodriguez Hervella &l= t;jfrherve@ing.uc3m.es> probably wrote: > > > On Wednesda= y 21 January 2004 14:53, Sergey 'DoubleF' Zaharchenko wrote: > >= ; > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:26:25 +0100 > > > > > > > > Juan Rodriguez Hervella = ; probably wrote: > > > > > Hello, please send the rep= ly to myself cause Im not > > > > > subscribe to the l= ist > > > > > > > > > > I've got a = FreeBSD-5.1 installation in /dev/ad0s3, > > > > > but = I usually run FreeBSD-4.9 from /dev/ad0s2. > > > > &g= t; > > > 5.x uses UFS2 by default. 4.x does not understand UFS2.= In short, you > > > > either re-newfs the 5.x partition = to be UFS1, or you are short of luck > > > > this time. <= BR>> > > > > > I can not believe you !, > &g= t; > > > > I guess there is (or there will be) some work-= in-progress to have > > > UFS2 support on FreeBSD-4.X system= s. > > > > If only by you:(. I'd suggest you make you= r 5.x partition UFS1 and be > > satisfied with that - that's pr= etty much all you can do. > > > > > Or are we foll= owing "Windows way of life" here ? > > > > If 5.x cou= ldn't understand 4.x, that would be a bad thing. But forcing > >= ; 5.x to be absolutely compatible with 4.x is another bad thing. >= > > > If you were forced to stay that compatible all the ti= me, you wouldn't be > > able to do major architectural changes.= If everyone thought the same > > way, an Athlon or a P4 would = be a 80286, only MUCH faster (which it is > > for most olden DO= S or Windows/16 programs, so your definition of > > `Windows wa= y of life' is definitely contrary to mine). > > > > Y= ou don't complain 4.x can't run 5.x binaries, do you?:) > >= But the filesystem is a different thing, imho. > > For exa= mple, if you use FreeBSD-4.X you can mount > ext2,ntfs,msdos,cd966= 0,smbfs..... if you use Linux, you > can mount ufs..... what's the= reason it is not possible to > make a program which understands t= he UFS2 filesystem > under FreeBSD-4.X ? Is there any tecnical bar= rier ? Even > if the filesystem was mounted "read-only" (like ntfs= ), > that would fit me.... Because the development track i= s 5.xxxx and that is where new things are going. The 4.xxxx track get= s necessary bug and security fixes, etc now, but not any major new fe= atures. The 4.xxxx track will soon be completely replaced by 5.xxxx. = ////jerry > > Besides, is there any way to make= my UFS2 filesystem go > back to UFS1 without losing the data ? Just dump(8) it to a tape or other disk, create a new UFS2 file system where the UFS2 now lives and then restore(8) the dump. > > Thanks. > I > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-q= uestions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailm= an/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "= freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---------= --------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:35= :46 -0500 (EST) From: falaki@ce.sharif.edu Subject: passwd comman= d problem. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1101= =2E81.31.169.172.1074738946.squirrel@ce.sharif.edu> Content-Type: = text/plain;charset=3Diso-8859-1 Hello; For some reason I had = to add the passwd files of a previous FreeBSD 4.4 server to a new 4.9= one. I added passwd and master.passwd. Then I updated the db files. = Now every thing is OK and all users can login. My problem is that onl= y the users in the wheel group can use passwd to change their passwor= ds. The permissions of /usr/bin/passwd is: -r-sr-sr-x 2 root wheel 32= 824 Oct 27 2003 /usr/bin/passwd I cannot understand the reason. C= an anybody help me. -----------------------------= - Message: 3 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:43:36 -0500 From: = "fbsd_user" Subject: RE: Unable to = mount CDrom in 5.2, reading past threads is of no help To: "scott= renna" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" = You found bug in FBSD 5.2 submit problem report on it from an FBSD sy= stem using send-pr command. -----Original Message----= - From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd= -questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of scott renna Sent: Wednesday, Janu= ary 21, 2004 12:29 PM To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com; freebsd-question= s@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Unable to mount CDrom in 5.2, reading past= threads is of no help mount /cdrom yields: cd9660: /= dev/acd0: Invalid argument /etc/fstab is set up as such: = /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 --- fbsd_user wrote: > Try mount /cdrom > > -= ----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.= org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Beha= lf Of scott renna > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:38 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Unable to mount= CDrom in 5.2, reading past > threads is of no > help &= gt; > Hello, > > Im having issues in mounting a cdro= m on my > FreeBSD5.2 > system both as root and non root use= r. As root I > execute commands like this: > > &= gt; pluto# mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0= : Invalid argument > pluto# mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom >= ; mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument > pluto# mount_cd9660= /dev/acd0c /home/mount/cdrom/ > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid= argument > pluto# mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /home/mount/cdrom/ &= gt; mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument > > CD9660 su= pport is enabled in my kernel and my > devfs.conf has: > > perm xpt0 0660 > perm pass0 0660 > link acd0 cdrom <= BR>> link acd0 acd0c > perm acd0 0660 > > I'm als= o symlinked cdrom to acd0. Peculiar though, > that I did not have = an acd0c device in my /dev. I > created one and symlinked it to ac= d0. > > dmesg recognizes it: > > acd0: CDROM = at ata1-slave PIO4 > > anyone have = any ideas on this? > > Scott Renna > > &g= t; > > > __________________________________ >= Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" &g= t; Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus= > _______________________________________________ > freebs= d-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.or= g/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any ma= il to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > <= BR> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! H= otjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepsta= kes.yahoo.com/signingbonus __________________________________________= _____ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.fre= ebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any = mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----= ------------------------- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 0= 7:27:33 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen Subjec= t: Re: ipfw/nated stateful rules example To: fbsd_user Cc: Micheal Patterson Message-ID: <20040121182733.GB36015@grimoire.chen.org.n= z> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii On Wed, Ja= n 21, 2004 at 08:29:32AM -0500, fbsd_user wrote: [...] > A= s far as the question of using keep-state rules on both the private &= gt; and public interfaces this is cross population of the single >= stateful table and returning packets are being matched to entries in > the stateful table which do not belong to the interface the origina= l > enter was posted from. This is an logic error and invalidates = the > function of the purpose of the whole stateful concept. <= BR>A logic error is only there is something doesn't work. The proposed solution works, so there is no logic error. I can't see how the statefu= l concept has been invalidated - the mechanism works as intended. Wha= t you've presented is a matter of opinion rather than any concrete ex= ample as to why the proposed solution is insecure. -- Jonatha= n Chen -------------------------------------= --------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates = at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the o= perating system. ------------------------------ Message: = 5 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:29:23 +0600 From: Stas <00@nm.ru&g= t; Subject: latency To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message= -ID: <1585049529.20040122002923@nm.ru> Content-Type: text/plain= ; charset=3Dus-ascii Hello, How much is latency in FreeBS= D? I would like to listen music playing on FreeBSD PC with hi-fi = sound. First I need to be sure the system latency is low enough. = -- Best regards, Stas ------------------------------ = Message: 6 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:35:43 -0500 From: "c= mustard@nyc.rr.com" To: freebsd-questions= @freebsd.org Message-ID: <114780-220041321183543314@M2W034.mail2we= b.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Situ= ation: This is a new install of 5.2 ISO from ftp.freebsd.org. (in= stall went fine, etc, everything is up and running well,... but) = Everything runs fine for about an hour and a half then everything fre= ezes ( doesnt recognize keyboard, mouse, anything etc ) and i have to= do a cold reboot ( ouch! ). This is in console or in X. (I exper= ienced similiar problems trying to run linux on this box, it would ge= t kernel panics, only cold reboot would release it.) I do believe thi= s to be related to ACPI but have no proof. (i would love to be ab= le to provide more diagnostics or log output but there is no output t= o include, when the system comes back up, all it knows is that it was= shutdown improperly) (I hear the processor fan speed increase al= ot too, like when i'm compiling from source, it's almost like somethi= ng is overworking the processor and wont release it)(side note, i use= usb and a kvm switch, i don't think that's related though, it seems = to work fine) This is a relatively new machine but i have seen ot= her posters running similiar, so it should run freebsd fine. Asus= Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe = Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 SPP, nForce2 MCP-T AMD Athlon XP 2200+, 266 M= Hz FSB, 256K Cache Processor 512MB RAM (Geil). I have learned= quite a bit by searching the lists which helped the APCI problems et= c. 5.2 wont boot 'regular (choice 1)' unless you disable parallel por= t in bios. ( boot process will just hang on Timer miliseconds display= output,... sorry not with the box, don't remember the exact output )= =2E also, i found this: > However, I managed to work aroun= d these freezes by removing the two > SMP-related lines from my ke= rnel configuration: > > options SMP # Symmetric MultiProces= sor Kernel > device apic # I/O APIC so, i will try that to= night. I am hoping someone with a similiar set-up (these are very= popular modern componets) can share experiances or a bios set up or = kernel config, or other information. I really want to run freebsd on = this box. thanks for your time. -= ------------------------------------------------------------------- m= ail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: = Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:38:34 -0500 From: Jeremy Faulkner Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD to burn in computers To: J= oerg Pernfuss Cc: freebsd-questions@fr= eebsd.org Message-ID: <400EC72A.1020801@gldis.ca> Content-T= ype: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii; format=3Dflowed Joerg Pernfu= ss wrote: > On 21 Jan 2004 09:20:20 -0500 > Dan Pelleg <= daniel+bsd@pelleg.org> wrote: > > >>>[...] = >>>b)make world; make world; make world; make world; make wo= rld (my >>>idea here is to run make world and make on XFree8= 6 concurrently, >>>thus stressing the system further - I'm n= ot sure if this is a good >>>idea or not, but I'm sure someo= ne will correct me.) >> >> >>Have make star= t up many compiles in parallel with the -j switch: for >>exampl= e "make -j3". My rule of thumb for a most-effective make is 3 >>= ;times the number of processor. You will probably want a higher number >>just so the strain on memory and disk is higher. > &= gt; > For his purpose of stress testing the memory: > make = -j64 buildkernel > > I use this on dual proc boxes, maybe -= j32 is already more than enough > for a single cpu. > &= gt; Won't work with less than 128MiByte RAM iirc, but so far I haven't se= en > something different that puts that much stress on your memory= =2E > Surviving this two or three times in a row you can label you= r RAM > `non-faulty'. > > Joerg Or he could = just use memtest (ports/sysutils/memtest) -- Jeremy Faulkner = http://www.gldis.ca ------------------------------ Me= ssage: 8 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:38:04 -0500 From: "cmustard@ny= c.rr.com" Subject: new install of 5.2 ISO= aft hour system freeze cold reboot only option To: freebsd-quest= ions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <184670-22004132118384197@M2W043.mail= 2web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 S= ituation: This is a new install of 5.2 ISO from ftp.freebsd.org. = (install went fine, etc, everything is up and running well,... but) <= BR> Everything runs fine for about an hour and a half then everything = freezes ( doesnt recognize keyboard, mouse, anything etc ) and i have= to do a cold reboot ( ouch! ). This is in console or in X. (I ex= perienced similiar problems trying to run linux on this box, it would= get kernel panics, only cold reboot would release it.) I do believe = this to be related to ACPI but have no proof. (i would love to be= able to provide more diagnostics or log output but there is no outpu= t to include, when the system comes back up, all it knows is that it = was shutdown improperly) (I hear the processor fan speed increase= alot too, like when i'm compiling from source, it's almost like some= thing is overworking the processor and wont release it)(side note, i = use usb and a kvm switch, i don't think that's related though, it see= ms to work fine) This is a relatively new machine but i have seen= other posters running similiar, so it should run freebsd fine. A= sus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe <= BR>Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 SPP, nForce2 MCP-T AMD Athlon XP 2200+, 26= 6 MHz FSB, 256K Cache Processor 512MB RAM (Geil). I have lear= ned quite a bit by searching the lists which helped the APCI problems= etc. 5.2 wont boot 'regular (choice 1)' unless you disable parallel = port in bios. ( boot process will just hang on Timer miliseconds disp= lay output,... sorry not with the box, don't remember the exact outpu= t ). also, i found this: > However, I managed to work arou= nd these freezes by removing the two > SMP-related lines from my k= ernel configuration: > > options SMP # Symmetric MultiProce= ssor Kernel > device apic # I/O APIC so, i will try that t= onight. I am hoping someone with a similiar set-up (these are ver= y popular modern componets) can share experiances or a bios set up or= kernel config, or other information. I really want to run freebsd on= this box. thanks for your time. --------------------= ------------------------------------------------ mail2web - Check you= r email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------= ------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00= :38:41 +0600 From: Stas <00@nm.ru> Subject: ALSA drivers To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <1755607053.200401= 22003841@nm.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii <= BR>Hello, Does FreeBSD supports ALSA drivers? Thanks = -- Best regards, Stas mailto:00@nm.ru ---------------= --------------- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:25 -= 0500 From: Kenneth Culver S= ubject: Re: ALSA drivers To: Stas <00@nm.ru> Cc: freebsd-qu= estions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20040121134425.d51c4oggoc4wog= 88@www.sweetdreamsracing.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D= "ISO-8859-1" Quoting Stas <00@nm.ru>: > Hello, <= BR>> > Does FreeBSD supports ALSA drivers? > No = it doesn't. Ken ------------------------------ Me= ssage: 11 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:52:17 +0100 From: "Daan Vreek= en [PA4DAN]" Subject: Re: USB sound dev= ice questions (multiples!) To: Ethan Cc:= FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <200401211952.17086.Dan= ovitsch@Vitsch.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-= 1" On Wednesday 21 January 2004 13:47, you wrote: > > I= f they are all plugged in during boot they will get probed in the same > > order every time you boot, so yes, they will be static. &= gt; Okay, because this is going to be a fixed installation that will be p= retty > much hands off. > > Be sure to calculate if = you have enough bandwidth available to drive such > > a great n= umber of devices at the same time though : > > 48KHz * 16-bits = sample * stereo * 6 devices =3D about 48 * 2 * 2 * 6 =3D > > 11= 52 KB/sec . > > That's about the maximum you can get over USB 1= =2E0, so I'm not sure if you > > will be able to use them all a= t the same time at maximum playback rate... > > So it depends o= n the quality and sample-rate you need. > I figured I would split = them across two USB interface cards? That should solve the bandwidth = problems yes... good luck, Daan ---------------------= --------- Message: 12 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:55:00 -0600 <= BR>From: "Lance E. Lott" Subject: Re:= latency To: Stas <00@nm.ru> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.= org Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040121124305.01baa5d0@mail.at-vantage= =2Ecom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" $19= =2E95. Sorry, couldn't resist... Lance At= 12:29 PM 1/21/2004, you wrote: >Hello, > >How m= uch is latency in FreeBSD? > >I would like to listen music = playing on FreeBSD PC with hi-fi sound. >First I need to be sure t= he system latency is low enough. >-- >Best regards, >= ; Stas > >_______________________________________________ <= BR>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.fr= eebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send= any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >= ; > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >V= ersion: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 1/19/2004 -----= --------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certi= fied Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft= =2Ecom). Version: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 1/19/= 2004 ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date:= Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:13:15 +0100 From: Benjamin Walkenhorst Subject: Re: latency To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.= org Message-ID: <20040121201315.44d0f8f8.krylon@gmx.net> Co= ntent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hello, On Th= u, 22 Jan 2004 00:29:23 +0600 Stas <00@nm.ru> wrote: &g= t; Hello, > > How much is latency in FreeBSD? > = > I would like to listen music playing on FreeBSD PC with hi-fi sound.= > First I need to be sure the system latency is low enough. <= BR>It depends. a) Where does the music come from? CD, MP3, WAV, MIDI?= b) What kind of machine do you have? If you want to play Audio-CDs, = you can often plug headphones or speakers to the front-panel of a CD-= drive. Otherwise you need a sound "card", either on-board or as an ad= d-on-card. Also, if you want to list to MP3, your machine has to be f= ast enough (P100 and faster, if I am not mistaken) On my mach= ine, I listen to MP3s a lot. It's an Athlon XP 2400+ with 256MB RAM a= nd a Soundblaster 64 or 128 PCI, running FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE: playing= MP3s has almost no visible effect on system performance. The sounds = gets laggy, when the system is under *really heavy* load. But I mean = extremely heavy - compiling programs or rebuilding the system has no = notable effect. =3D) Also, I store my MP3s on a second machine and sh= are them with my desktop-machine via NFS, so if I put the network und= er heavy load, playback gets laggy, too, sometimes. But the network o= nly consists of the two machines (the other one is Athlon 700 / 160 M= B RAM / NetBSD 1.6.2_RC4) connected via 100Mbit-Ethernet, so this hap= pens very rarely, too. If your machine is fast enough, and if you= have a soundcard that works with FreeBSD, you should have no trouble= listening to music. If you have a soundcard installed, you just need= to add the line "device pcm" to your kernel-config, recompile th= e kernel and there you go. Now all you need is a program to play musi= c. I use xmms (www.xmms.org, or you can install it via ports, too). <= BR> Back in summer, I had FreeBSD 5.0 installed on a Pentium III 450 w= ith 256 MB RAM, listening to MP3s was fine, too. And both machine= s are *far* above the minimum requirements. A Pentium 133 with 64MB R= AM should be sufficient, unless you want to run "big boys" alongside = (KDE, Mozilla, ...) I am not quite sure what you mean by latency,= but FreeBSD is a multi-user, multi-tasking operating system, so even= with many things going on at the same time, music-playback works fin= e, if your machine is fast enough. > -- > Best rega= rds, > Stas Kind regards, Benjamin -----------= --- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 b= ytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail= /freebsd-questions/attachments/20040121/ef0f6b5c/attachment-0001.bi n = ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 21 = Jan 2004 20:18:58 +0100 (CET) From: Cordula's Web Subject: Re: latency To: 00@nm.ru Cc: freebsd-quest= ions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20040121191858.99F4340876@fw.farid-h= ajji.net> > How much is latency in FreeBSD? ??? > I would like to listen music playing on FreeBSD PC with hi-fi s= ound. > First I need to be sure the system latency is low enough. = I'm listening mp3's (with mpg123) on a old 200 MHz Pentium box, w= hich is running -STABLE. At the same time setiathome, multiple server= s, XFree86 and a lot of other stuff is running at the same time. No <= BR>problems at all with latency AFAICS. -- Cordula's Web. htt= p://www.cordula.ws/ ------------------------------ Me= ssage: 15 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:20:10 +0100 (CET) From: Cordu= la's Web Subject: Re: ALSA drivers To:= 00@nm.ru Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20040= 121192010.1F03240873@fw.farid-hajji.net> > Does FreeBSD sup= ports ALSA drivers? No. FreeBSD comes with its own sound drivers = (see pcm(4)). Most sound chips are supported right out of the box. Good luck. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed= , 21 Jan 2004 11:20:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dave McCammon Subject: Re: IPFW and Dynamic Rules To: questions@f= reebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121192052.15532.qmail@web41403.mail.y= ahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii --- Adam Seniuk wrote: > I keep get= ting /kernel: Too many dynamic rules, > sorry im my log file sever= al > times and i am not sure whats going on I have read > s= ome articles but they > are all in 2000 and for FreeBSD 4.0. &= gt; > If someone could give me a clue into what this is > a= nd how I can fix it. That > would be great! > > Than= ks. > > > Adam Seniuk > > adams@techwe= avers.net > [snip] >From the IPFW(8) net.inet.i= p.fw.dyn_max: 8192 Maximum number of dynamic rules. When you hit = this limit, no more dynamic rules can be installed until old ones exp= ire. Default on my FBSD 4.9 box with (options IPFW2 in kernel= config) is 4096. It may be helpful to tweak this setting or adju= st the expire time.(net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_ack_lifetime). There are o= ther sysctl knobs you can tweak. Check the man page. ____= ______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Ent= er the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.c= om/signingbonus ------------------------------ Message: 1= 7 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:23:57 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: passwd command problem. To: fala= ki@ce.sharif.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: &l= t;20040121192357.GD36015@grimoire.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/= plain; charset=3Dus-ascii On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 09:35:46PM -050= 0, falaki@ce.sharif.edu wrote: > Hello; > For some reason I= had to add the passwd files of a previous FreeBSD 4.4 > server to= a new 4.9 one. I added passwd and master.passwd. Then I > updated= the db files. Now every thing is OK and all users can login. > My= problem is that only the users in the wheel group can use passwd to = > change their passwords. The permissions of /usr/bin/passwd is: &= gt; -r-sr-sr-x 2 root wheel 32824 Oct 27 2003 /usr/bin/passwd > > I cannot understand the reason. Can anybody help me. The p= ermissions of /usr/bin/passwd should be: -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel = 28828 Jan 19 08:27 /usr/bin/passwd You've got the setgid bit set = on yours. -- Jonathan Chen ---------= ------------------------------------------------------------- "A pers= on should be able to do a small bit of everything, specialisation is = for insects" ------------------------------ Message: 18 <= BR>Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:38:17 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Schmiedesk= amp Subject: Monolithic kernel possible in= 5.2? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121193817.50= 054.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; chars= et=3Dus-ascii Hello, I've been grappling with a problem I've got = where my PXE booted kernel loads via TFTP and then fails to initi= alize the console. I verified that I do not have this problem und= er 4.9. I suspect that the pxeloader is incapable of loading the = requisite kernel modules over the wire. So, I know that FBSD 5 ha= s moved to a modular kernel, but is it still possible to build a mono= lithic one? If so, how? Thanks again, Peter _____= _____________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Ente= r the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.co= m/signingbonus ------------------------------ Message: 19= Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:45:21 -0600 From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse= " Subject: Re: ALSA drivers To: "Stas" &l= t;00@nm.ru>, "FreeBSD-Questions" Message-ID: <007001c3e057$1b572b60$d037630a@nic.target.com>= ; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Stas wrote= : > Hello, > > Does FreeBSD supports ALSA drivers? <= BR>> > Thanks The L in ALSA stands for Linux ... so I h= ighly doubt it. It might be possible to code such a thing for the Lin= ux ABI emulation, but I don't believe it has been done. -= ----------------------------- Message: 20 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2= 004 15:00:08 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" = ; Subject: how to tell if my ISP is blocking email & web ports To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" I = am thinking about enabling my gateway's sendmail email server to rece= ive email directly from the public internet and also installing apach= e to serve my own home page. I have 24/7 cable internet connectio= n plus an registered domain name which goes no place right now. <= BR>I know I can not ask my ISP's tech support if they block ports 110= , 25, and 80, because they will get suspicious and monitor my account= =2E Want to stay under their radar. So I need a way to test if th= e ports are blocked or not using an friends PC and my current IP addr= ess. What do you recommend? -------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ freebsd= -questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/= listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-= questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" End of freebsd-questions Diges= t, Vol 44, Issue 11 *************************************************=