Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 02:23:50 -0500 From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: <questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: BSDi Acquired by Embedded Computing Firm Wind River Message-ID: <15061.22534.477663.832238@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <001001c0c30f$bb6d4480$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> References: <15060.35576.658846.592778@guru.mired.org> <001001c0c30f$bb6d4480$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> types: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Meyer [mailto:mwm@mired.org] > >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 9:49 AM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: RE: BSDi Acquired by Embedded Computing Firm Wind River > > > > > >Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> types: > >> In a purely UNIX shop, I'd expect that the desktops would indeed be > >> running X Servers, and that the server systems would be running X > >> client programs. In a purely Windows shop, I'd expect the desktops > >> to be running user interface application programs, while the server > >> systems ran back-end processing like SQL, file serving, mail, etc. > >> In both shops, the desktops are primarily concerned with user > >> interface code, while the servers are doing the real work. > > > >I've never seen a unix shop - pure or otherwise - set up as Ted > >describes. That's pretty much the X-term model, and I have seen sites > >that use a lot of them. I've also known people who ran their X window > >manager on the server because they got quicker responses that way, but > >that doesn't make it a common practice. The advantages that accrue to > >centralized servers for home directories, mail, print, SQL, and such > >like exist just as much in Unix as they do in Windows. > > I'm missing something here - everything your saying is exactly the > X model. Yes, it is. However, both desktops and servers run X client programs in every Unix environment I've seen, and such use was supported by the IT staff. On the other hand, I've never seen a Windows shop where the IT staff supported file servers, SQL, and mail servers running on desktop boxes. The proximity of the two divisions caused me to assume a similarity of structure that you may not have meant. > To be honest though, I've never seen a pure UNIX shop at all, every > one I've seen that claims to be a UNIX shop always has Windows > systems stashed in corners here and there. But, I'm assuming that > they must exist, after all Sun and HP sold a heck of a lot of X terminals > at one time and that hardware went somewhere. I've been at Unix shops that didn't have a single Windows box. The few DOS boxes they had were there to support users dialing in from home with their own hardware. I've also been at shaps that had them, but they weren't supported by the IT staff - even though Mac's were. I've also never seen a pure Windows shop - even for the desktop. Almost inevitably, someone supporting the "back room only" Unix servers had put a Unix box on their desktop to make their life saner. <mike -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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