From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 13:18:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01D037B404 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lilzcluster.liwest.at (lilzclust01.liwest.at [212.33.55.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8388B43F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm58-27.liwest.at by lilzcluster.liwest.at (8.10.2/1.1.2.11/08Jun01-1123AM) id h53KImO0000936408; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:18:50 +0200 (MEST) From: Daniela To: "Erik Paulsen Skaalerud" , Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:17:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <000401c329f0$19f0fee0$0a00000a@eps> In-Reply-To: <000401c329f0$19f0fee0$0a00000a@eps> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306032217.49730.dgw@liwest.at> Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:18:58 -0000 On Tuesday 03 June 2003 16:49, Erik Paulsen Skaalerud wrote: Thanks for your reply. > > Hi all! > > Hi > > > I need your help. > > Ok. You should ask generic questions like this on > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, as its not directly rleated to > FreeBSD-STABLE. I thought it might be some bug in -STABLE. > > My server doesn't respond any more. Everything crashed. > > How can I find out if this is a bug or it is simply overloaded? > > Did you try looking at its console? > It probably have lots of pretty messages of whats going on.. Can't look at the console. It hangs completely. > > I don't have much running, just KDE with about 10 programs > > on each of the 16 desktops, and a few background processes. > > This seems much, but I often have much more stuff running, > > and it is not even slow. > > > > It does respond when I ping it, but won't let me in over SSH. > > The processor doesn't sound busy, so I suspect that the > > scheduler has gone away, or there is some bug in the kernel, > > or some system table is too small. > > Hm. What kind of sound does a busy CPU make? :-) > > > How do I find out what the problem is? (Never had any > > before.) > > Yeah, attach a console and find out whats going on. How can I do that? It doesn't respond to ctrl+alt+backspace and ctrl+alt+del, I can still move the mouse, but I can't click anything. (I known I shouldn't run X11 on a server.) > > FreeBSD has always managed the highest loads, even > > on normal PC hardware. Is it possible to bring the server > > back without rebooting? I would lose a lot of unsaved data if > > I had to reboot. I'm running 4.8-STABLE. > > When a server responds to ping, but ssh times out etc it often relates to > hdd problems. Atleast in my experiences it has been so (dead disk). And if > it is hdd problems, and FreeBSD couldnt get the disk to wake up again, you > probably already have lost data. That could be the cause. One minute before the crash I could still enter shell builtin commands, but external commands did just nothing. Is it possible that the process table is full (I had more than 450 processes last time I ran top) or I ran out of memory (512M RAM + 1024M swap)? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Daniela