From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Apr 17 09:11:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCEEF91A92 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay105.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay105.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D8F971EA6; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:11:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes IronPort-PHdr: =?us-ascii?q?9a23=3AaOqyjBRJRQXR6AVSVUBIwiTscNpsv+yvbD5Q0YIu?= =?us-ascii?q?jvd0So/mwa67ZBeDt8tkgFKBZ4jH8fUM07OQ7/i7HzRYqb+681k6OKRWUBEEjc?= =?us-ascii?q?hE1ycBO+WiTXPBEfjxciYhF95DXlI2t1uyMExSBdqsLwaK+i764jEdAAjwOhRo?= =?us-ascii?q?LerpBIHSk9631+ev8JHPfglEnjWwba98IRmssQndqtQdjJd/JKo21hbHuGZDdf?= =?us-ascii?q?5MxWNvK1KTnhL86dm18ZV+7SleuO8v+tBZX6nicKs2UbJXDDI9M2Ao/8LrrgXM?= =?us-ascii?q?TRGO5nQHTGoblAdDDhXf4xH7WpfxtTb6tvZ41SKHM8D6Uaw4VDK/5KpwVhTmlD?= =?us-ascii?q?kIOCI48GHPi8x/kqRboA66pxdix4LYeZyZOOZicq/Ye94RWGhPUdtLVyFZDI2y?= =?us-ascii?q?b5UBAfcCM+laoYnyqEcBoxSlCAmwBu7j1iNEimPq0aEk1ekqDAHI3BYnH9ILqH?= =?us-ascii?q?nastT1NKUWUeuo0qTIyjLDb+hI1jf48ofIdAshquyLULJscMrRy00vGhjFgFWK?= =?us-ascii?q?t4PqIS6Y2PkDvWSB6OpgT+2vhnchpgpsoTav3t8hh4rUio4P1FzJ+jh1zJwrKd?= =?us-ascii?q?GkVkJ3e8OoHZteuiycKoB4WNktQ3tytyY/0rAGvJm7czUUx5k/3B7fbuCHc5CP?= =?us-ascii?q?4hL+SOadOTd4i2xheLK4nxuy8lKvyun9VsmxzllKtC1FnsPQtnAM1RzT7tKLRe?= =?us-ascii?q?d6/kemwjaAyQXT5ftCIUAvj6bbLIQhwrEompoSt0TMADP2lV31gaOLbEko5Oel?= =?us-ascii?q?5/n9brn4upOQKZV4hhz+P6kggsC/BP43MgkKX2iV4+S807jj8FXlQLVLjP02lr?= =?us-ascii?q?LUsJ7AJcsFuKG2GBRV3Zs55xa4FTem38wUnWMbI1JdZBKHk4/pNknWIPD/F/e/?= =?us-ascii?q?n1GskDhxx/3dML3hGIvCIWbYn7f6YLlx8UlcyBA8zdpH/ZJbFqkBIO7vWk/2rN?= =?us-ascii?q?HYAAU5PBKqzOn8E9Vyy5oSWXqIAq+DLKPSqkSF5uw1I+aSeoAaoy39JOU/6/7p?= =?us-ascii?q?l385lkcXfbO10psPdHC4AvNmLl2aYXXxnNgMCmkKvhAgQ+P0k1KCSiNca2y1X6?= =?us-ascii?q?Im6TExEJimApvbRoCxnLyB2z+2HoZIaW1dBFCMC2nneJufVPcXdS2eOMhhkiYL?= =?us-ascii?q?VbK5UY8uyQmutBPmy7pgNufU+TAXuoz62Nh7/e3ciw89+idvD8uAyGyNTHx7kX?= =?us-ascii?q?0SSz8xxqB/rlR3yk2f3qhgn/xYCdtT6utTXQgnL57czvF1C9/pVwLPZNeGVkip?= =?us-ascii?q?Tc69AT4sVN4xxMUOY0kuU+ml2znPxSujCrldm7HDK4Yz9b6Ui3H9PcdxxF7Izq?= =?us-ascii?q?QshUIqBMxVOjv1qLR48l3vBozN226ekL2ncK0ax2aZ6GaByUKgpkxVejVcF6Lf?= =?us-ascii?q?UiZMNQPtsd3l6xaaHPeVArM9P14EkJbaJw=3D=3D?= X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2CgDgA5udVa/5nK8VFdg3NTgQgVE4xIj?= =?us-ascii?q?DQBAYFzMQFdlGCBf4J1AoJQIjgUAQIBAQEBAQECAWsogjUkAYJJAQU6HCMQCxg?= =?us-ascii?q?JJQ8qHgYThRGoLohCgiWKGYNsLopHAocgMJAYCI4waItwkUgzIYFSTTAIgn6CI?= =?us-ascii?q?BeOGT0wjw0BAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2CgDgA5udVa/5nK8VFdg3NTgQgVE4xIjDQBAYFzMQFdlGC?= =?us-ascii?q?Bf4J1AoJQIjgUAQIBAQEBAQECAWsogjUkAYJJAQU6HCMQCxgJJQ8qHgYThRGoL?= =?us-ascii?q?ohCgiWKGYNsLopHAocgMJAYCI4waItwkUgzIYFSTTAIgn6CIBeOGT0wjw0BAQ?= Received: from 153.202-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([81.241.202.153]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 17 Apr 2018 11:11:47 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w3H9BjMf004087; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:11:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:11:45 +0200 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Adriaan de Groot Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, Stefan Esser , kde@freebsd.org, Ports FreeBSD , FreeBSD Port-Manager Subject: Re: Conflicts due to renamed KDE4 ports Message-ID: <20180417111138.7ef63028@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <2582582.nTViGzGfaW@beastie.bionicmutton.org> References: <20180416211329.52e4c0dc@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <2582582.nTViGzGfaW@beastie.bionicmutton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:11:52 -0000 On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 00:42:48 +0200 Adriaan de Groot wrote: > [where did this discussion take place, earlier? this is the first I've seen it] > > So, there are roughly two migration paths: supposing someone has x11/kde4 > installed, which has dependencies on many applications and a Plasma 4 desktop, > kde@ wants (wanted) to make it possible to migrate to a still-KDE4 desktop, > while renaming everything to have a -kde4 suffix. The other path is to migrate > to the latest-and-greatest-from-KDE .. we don't have a metaport for that, and > if we do get one it probably won't be called x11/kde5. > > For single applications, the migration looks similar: you had, around january > 2018, port . That's the KDE4 version. Now there is port -kde4, if > you want to stick to KDE4 software (which is no longer released upstream, and > is based on an EOL toolkit, but some people feel quite strongly about this). > Ports are returning, without a suffix, to mean "the latest-and-greatest- > version-of-". This is consistent with other ports which have a , > sometimes a -devel for upcoming things, and a - for older > versions if you have specific dependencies on old versions. > > Historically, things were a mess with naming with the KDE ports. We think > we've got a good scheme now: -kde4 (and in the far future, -kf5) for > versions of the software based on an older stack, and for the current > one. But the pain of getting from the mess to something better organized has > to happen at some point. What happens when you run pkg upgrade on a 6 months old installation of KDE4?