From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 15:43:38 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8A92B506C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48y7pw6Ynlz4JgF for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from otaku.sdf.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 038FhRCm020532 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:27 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: Evilham cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48y7pw6Ynlz4JgF X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.927,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.77), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.38), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:43:38 -0000 Hi Evilham Very nicely written article I liked it ... I also saw there is a FreeBSD Porting Manual/Handbook By the look of it with my untrained eye it looked a lot like shell scripting and following a given syntax and cheking builds and update dependencies ---> this with my eyes without having a clue so dont judge me on that :) This definetly looks like something which interests me indeed... I always thought porting would mean to bring something over which does not exist .. from zero .. like SecureCRT (has it open thats why, its a closed source SSH/Terminal emulator has windows/mac os / linux versions ) and figure out how to make it work on FreeBSD ** without it existing in any form of port or binary for FreeBSD ** Where can I go to get some more step by step and training materials on this Porting thing? IRC? other mail list? Telegram chat? Regards Viktor On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, Evilham wrote: > Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200 > From: Evilham > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Question (fwd) > > Hey, > > On dt., abr. 07 2020, Viktor Madarasz wrote: > >> viktormadarasz@sdf.org >> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:52:50 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Viktor Madarasz >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Question >> >> I would like to contribute to FreeBSD. I can NOT code ( very shallow >> C++ >> knowledge I pretty much got confused the moment the object oriented >> concepts >> being brought in and the whole mindset ( way to think as a programmer) >> always >> confuses me :) ) >> >> So what else would be there for me? Documentation? or something else? ( >> English >> and Hungarian could work for me and maybe even Spanish but My English and >> Hungarian are way better :) ) > > > Helping out with ports doesn't *usually* require programming per se. > My approach to help out with limited time has been to help fix things I see > that need fixing. > > Here is something I wrote about updating ports (with tons of links to things > I wish I had known :-)) > https://evilham.com/en/blog/2020-FreeBSD-updating-a-port-twisted-python/ > > Creating ports is similarly not much of a programming effort, so if you see > something that is missing and would be desirable, you can look into it. > If you can identify a similar piece of software (as in: same programming > language, similar architecture, ...), you might be able to extrapolate from > that other port to create your own; otherwise the porter's handbook is a good > resource and generally just asking on #freebsd-ports might point you in the > right direction. > > Documentation is indeed also a great way, just can't speak for that as much > yet. > > >> Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country where I >> live-reside >> (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good opportunity to do so as >> there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write English, >> Spanish , >> Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with those languages >> as >> well... >> >> Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these things? > > > Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; though in my > case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have physical meetings be easier for > the post-COVID world. > Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit like PyBCN), to > facilitate participation of local computer-people who might not be as > well-versed in English. > Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, just make sure > not to exclude people on a language basis. > > For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't managed to do > anything with it just yet. > I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an abandoned effort; > you might be able to get in touch with them and maybe do a friendly, mutually > agreed, domain take over and revive it :-) (that would be pretty cool). > > As for how to do these things... It's tricky because it's something social > and it's a bunch of *constant, reliable* work. > During the past, say 15-20 episodes of https://bsdnow.tv, there have been > quite a few mentions about how to start such an effort. > (You'd have to look into e.g. the RSS feed and find those, but if you haven't > yet, it's a good podcast worth listening regardless of these particular bits) > > At the very least it sounds like announcing you'll do such a thing here, > probably on Twitter *and* fediverse, and shooting an email with enough head > time to the BSD Now people is a decent way to start. > > Cheers, > -- > Evilham > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org