From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Jul 15 18:58:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36D737B400 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E52F43E4A for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g6G1vq3W043692; Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:57:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200207160112.g6G1CIgH020442@dotar.thuvia.org> References: <200207160112.g6G1CIgH020442@dotar.thuvia.org> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:57:51 -0400 To: Mark Valentine , danfe@regency.nsu.ru (Alexey Dokuchaev), Jos Backus From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: scripting language in base system? Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:12 AM +0100 7/16/02, Mark Valentine wrote: > > From: danfe@regency.nsu.ru (Alexey Dokuchaev) > > > Traditionally, UNIX lived for 30+ years without need for a >> monster like Perl or Ruby, in the base, clearly showing us that >> sh/awk/sed is a [very] decent scripting facility. > >Though I did breathe a sigh of relief when shell functions became >common enough to be useful... ;-) > >I've never really wanted for anything since. Except maybe for >make(1) to have a standard conditional syntax. Perhaps that is the problem. Me, I want a good package-system, but all the 30-year sh/sed/awk veterans don't seem to see a need for it. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message