From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 15:33:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AE616A4CE for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:33:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E274E43D2D for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 78so32391rnk for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:33:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PDSxpHGv8tHFW3fjVb2XelTxasXj6+tfFIyUwMcya3/atoAB3DOO0w98sZMLbfxsuhJBMuPIAqNgZQvH4JRzwvPU5uY/X22qIaNxkhB7NKO+QI+h4fD/WBAi96zGD/t3xdVuDmuxmDsk7MegGFi2ZhZbfk/ZBGFbWfS0poTIyps= Received: by 10.38.65.47 with SMTP id n47mr1479737rna; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.69 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:33:27 -0500 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Brian In-Reply-To: <200410211307.i9LD7KSI038258@emboss.bossbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410211307.i9LD7KSI038258@emboss.bossbox.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:33:28 -0000 > I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid work > station which I'm sure it's more than able to be. certainly the best I've used on the desktop > For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall, > web,email, irc and local development. Noted, I'll reply regarding these specifically. > Cutting the long story short for people who use FreeBSD as a desktop > currently, what version is recommended at the moment for such a task. Almost assuredly 5.3 woudl be the way to go. Someone else mentioned this earlier. It's the version that will allow you to easily upgrade from stable version to stable version. > Most of the boxes have fairly good specs, 1.9GHZ plenty of hdd space and > lots of RAM. > > Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ? Of course. I can at least tell you what I have and haven't tried/used. Web: I use konqueror for most of my browsing, but understand that I'm very much in the minority when I do so. Further gmail is not supported in it. Firefox is the only other browser that I use currently in FreeBSd. I've used Opera and Galeon/Skipstone without any real hatred. Email: Because I don't try to deviate too much from the kde desktop currently, (tracking development) I've been using kmail. It has a few features missing and one of them specifically (delete only deleted messages from server) does make me use thunderbird sometimes. I've not tried evolution, although I hear only good things about it. IRC: I recommend no client more heartily than irssi. IMHO, irc isn't something that can be easily (or at least hasn't been as I've seen it) graphicalised. I used XChat for a while, but when I used it it was relatively unstable. Also, being able to use irssi in conjunction with screen makes IRC much easier to keep logs. Local Dev: This depends heavily on what type of development you are doing. vim/kvim and gcc/g++ is my choice environment for C and C++ programming. It's not a full-flavoured environment, but I find nothing that I can't do with those tools. If you do Java programming, I recommend giving netbeans a try. If you are trying to do local graphical applications, kDevelop isn't so bad. My usual choice of environment on beefy systems (>= 1.0 ghz 686's) I tend to use KDE. I like the configurability and it is more full featured than I'd ever need. A /lot/ of people like to use something substantially lighter (RAM usage and login time for reasons). One of the solutions I've found that is very much acceptable to me is a combination of OpenBox and Kicker (from kde). Gives me a full-featured bar and system tray coupled with a VERY light window manager. I would think the best possible suggestion as you embark is to try a bunch. Fluxbox, Blackbox, Openbox, Gnome, XFCE4, KDE, IceWM, and more. It never hurts to look at alternatives. I hope this helps. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised.