From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 10:03:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF3C16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC32143D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so43013rns for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jAyeza6SS7qN6UdNQb5KaizOQiZYLZ9gWMj7HljUL51tudkR9iBKBIUmyPtRhbx7JfmjOPAKc65m+aTYI9n2Jeaxk8KzttFdIfUSPcWhtKMrH9xplDbSq5AYbnPFMLzY1mjdCKNPMu8YuO9I9T5sBjTqQ29BWnTOE8P1iwJ7qs0= Received: by 10.11.117.59 with SMTP id p59mr102405cwc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d6729180507070303d921631@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:03:58 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42CCF6C8.2000405@gizm0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <42CCF6C8.2000405@gizm0.org> Subject: Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:03:59 -0000 Two days ago I was trying to pre-emptively solve this problem. A couple quickie comments that may help out at some point, plus related questions : I tried to format a new hard drive using Win2K, knowing there were issues w/ NTFS under *BSD. So, decided to format using FAT32 under disk management. It failed three times (only after wasting 30 mins or so ''formatting''). First, I selected 512 byte sectors .. they were ''too small.'' Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which served as a Win98 drive without a blurp). Last FAT32 effort I chose teh remaining 1024 byte sector option with same result as 512 byte option. Of course, win2K was too stupid & lazy to evaluate these problems prior to committing to format & actually pretending to do it ... So, I am assuming that for future, I would use Win98 to create a FAT32 data partition that can be shared by Win/linux & *BSD. Or, possibly *BSD or linux to create such .. but I have my doubts regarding Win being able to access such. So, the question portion I wasn't able to answer through various google searches : Win insisted on ''writing a signature'' to the new drive (not used to install an OS .. just format as one large volume for data storage). I finally relented & let it since I was unable to find out what such a ''signature'' is and, more importantly, couldn't locate a utility that would allow me to write a signature (or its equivalent) to the drive. Will this affect my ability to let *BSD read the drive later ..? What is this ''signature'' thingie, and what is the lingo for it under linux/*BSD? Is there a utility that I can run under Win or from a bootable floppy that would let me intitate a virgin drive ? Maybe even partition & format in a ''universal'' FAT32 for DOS/Win/*nix/*BSD to all access for dfata read/writes? Other question on this is that I understand that linux has solutions to read/write to ntfs. Should *BSD not be able to emulate enough linux to use such a function ..? Linux & Win emulation are sold pretty hard as one of the positive points about *BSD. I was going with the FAT32 solution to simplify my life, not because I thought it was required. BTW, I had to format as NTFS since Win2K is my only option for the moment; first time I ever tried to use WinNT to format a volume or drive as FAT32 & was strikingly unsurprised when it failed at such a banal task. I am now operating under the assumption I must reformat later to use with *nix/*BSD, so this thread is quite interesting to me so I can do it right the next time .. hopefully within a week to ten days. -- datora serfing the stream electric