From owner-freebsd-security Fri Sep 11 03:08:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA12370 for freebsd-security-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hosting.doublesquare.com (hosting.doublesquare.com [195.5.128.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA12365 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ark@eltex.ru) From: ark@eltex.ru Received: from eltex.ru (eltex-spiiras.nw.ru [195.19.204.46] (may be forged)) by hosting.doublesquare.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02788; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:07:01 +0400 (MSD) Received: from paranoid.eltex.spb.ru (root@border.eltex.ru [195.19.198.2]) by eltex.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03682; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:07:05 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from ark@localhost) by paranoid.eltex.spb.ru (8.8.8/8.7.3) id OAA04817; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:06:54 +0400 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:06:54 +0400 Message-Id: <199809111006.OAA04817@paranoid.eltex.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <19980910180956.A2858@mcs.net> from "Karl Denninger " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: Re: terminal escape exploit (was Re: cat exploit) To: karl@denninger.net Cc: Studded@dal.net, Michael@paranoid.eltex.spb.ru, Richards@paranoid.eltex.spb.ru, <026809r@dragon.acadiau.ca>, security@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nuqneH, Oh really? afair vt52 was too dumb and had no programmable keys and only responces you could get back from it were screen cursor position and some simple status info. You need vt100 at least. vt52 clones were much more widespread in communist block countries than in the rest of the world where they were quickly phased out by vt100 and higher models. ;) Karl Denninger said : > The problem is TERMINALS. > > You can't bitch that an EMULATOR does exactly what it is claimed to do - > emulate the REAL DEVICE. > > This "exploit" is so old its crusty; it is quite possible to do this on a > VT-52 (yes, a real Vt-52, you know those terminals that weighed about 100 > lbs, had a dinky little screen, were made by DEC and haven't been seen in > some 15 years? Yes, those.) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNfj2PaH/mIJW9LeBAQGF5QP+Kh5fqocnfLrNeadq9z1/2f06Vw6tDvUq USaLykrpRg/v0a0E5EhNnmmwWFkHzw7bLT55osOKr9FmUmiaTZTymZ+CLlRhpfv1 BCyt85OJbtHOIxP0ZJ5DcOsZ+ZAn7r6+LZvxKni8E6gURtdOARhCbR1xvbjMr6PE 3+o9MGS5mLQ= =dzdt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message