From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 16 18:55:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E91716A420 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@schultznet.ca) Received: from dfw002.8inet.com (dfw002.8inet.com [72.232.12.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED00943D6A for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:55:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@schultznet.ca) Received: from [206.162.187.199] (helo=[172.22.100.67]) by dfw002.8inet.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1F9oHy-0001GR-HZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:55:38 -0500 Message-ID: <43F4CAA3.1020501@schultznet.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:55:31 -0500 From: Eric Schultz Organization: SchultzNet.ca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060216005036.L60635@ganymede.hub.org> <20060216053725.GB15586@parts-unknown.org> <20060216085304.GA52806@storage.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20060216085304.GA52806@storage.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dfw002.8inet.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - schultznet.ca X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [Total OT] Trying to improve some numbers ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:55:43 -0000 lars wrote: > A long uptime means that the machine hasn't been rebooted for a long > time. If that time's longer than the time to the last patch that > required a kernel recompilation and a reboot, it means the server is not > patched. > Where's the point in advertising an unpatched machine? Good afternoon... Perhaps it means the OS doesn't need to be patched that frequently or has a patch mechanism that avoids reboots? That's certainly worth advertising (if only were true). The top machine has been running for almost 6 years on FreeBSD 3.3 which means the admin probably believes that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I would also want to advertise the longevity of an OS. (You might not like that last one if you're a hardware vendor :) Also, a lot of work-arounds for security patches amount to "lock the front door." So perhaps some systems don't need to be patched because they're administered so as not to require immediate patching/upgrading. I had trouble finding any relative numbers on the website. Individual machines had an Availability % figure; but I couldn't find anything by OS. Also, I didn't see any pivots that broke-down OSes by usage or other crosstabs that would have been cool. -- Headed for the second star to the right and straight on 'til morning... Eric Schultz (aka Storkman) Photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/schultznet Homepage: http://www.schultznet.ca Blog: http://schultznet.blogspot.com/