From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 09:37:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB0516A4CE for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:37:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC0543D39 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:37:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ct-seymour2b-104.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.68.133.104]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8B9b8wM002924 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 05:37:08 -0400 Message-ID: <4142C74C.8010701@schmittnet.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 05:37:16 -0400 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Need advice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:37:10 -0000 I'm a newbie to FreeBSD, and I like what I've seen so far. I've been trying it on a machine I have here to get an idea of the plusses and minuses of using it as a basic desktop system. I could use a little advice to guide me in the process. I'm working with Version 4.10 now, simply because at the time I downloaded it, the 5 release kept locking up in the middle of the detection process. Also, my configuration seems to indicate that I should be using XFree86, too, and a lot of the comments here have stated that 5 will begin the use of xorg. However, xorg doesn't seem to support the graphics adapter on the machine I'm working with (though, tweaking XFree86 has been a bit of a challenge!). The machine I'm working with is a Gateway with a 300MHz PII that had otherwise been retired. It started with 32MB of memory which I replaced with a single 128MB chip. The motherboard has a built-in graphics adapter that was put out by a company called Mpact, which doesn't appear on any support list I've been able to find. Apparently the company was acquired by somebody, who was then acquired by somebody else (ATI, I believe) which then retired the processor. Because of that, when it didn't work right away I didn't put too much effort into it. Instead, I added a Diamond Stealth 2001 I had with the Arklogic 2000pv chip set and 2MB of DRAM (from another retired machine) and used xf86cfg to create a configuration file that disabled the onboard adapter and worked with the Stealth adapter. While I'm not done tweaking it, I have managed to bring up xfce at 800x600 in a low color mode, so far. I intend to try out the various desktops and Window managers I've seen documented but chose xfce to start because the comments here have generally indicated that it's a good choice for a light, speedy, environment to begin. I did a full install of FreeBSD, beginning with a minimal system from a CD, then switching to FTP to continue, which seems to give me more options to choose from. I used xf86cfg to get to the point where I can where I can use xstart to bring up xfce with the a basic desktop on it. First, I got it working with the basic VESA driver, and then with the ARK driver. However, While I don't expect the machine to be a speed demon, it still seems quite slow in comparison to the MS Windows versions (95 and ME) that had previously been on the machine (I did a completely clean install, so there are no Windows components, or anything else, left on the drive). Considering all of that, my questions are: - Am I being unrealistic in choosing a machine with a 300MHz processor? - If I add another 128MB of memory, should I expect to see a dramatic improvement? - Could the graphics adapter itself be the bottleneck? - If I picked up a newer graphics adapter that was supported by xorg, would a switch to 5.x and/or xorg be expected to pick up the speed a bit? Thanks to anyone who might help fill in the blanks. Bill