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Date:      Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:53:43 -0400
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Iain Templeton <iain@research.canon.com.au>
Cc:        "G. Adam Stanislav" <adam@whizkidtech.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: US checking accounts for non-US residents
Message-ID:  <20010701205343.A269@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10106280943470.6417-100000@blow.research.canon.com.au>; from iain@research.canon.com.au on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:48:52AM %2B1000
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On Thursday, 28 June 2001 at  9:48:52 +1000, Iain Templeton wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
>
>> At 16:58 2001-06-27 +1000, Iain Templeton wrote:
>>> Wow! A bank that doesn't charge you fees. You lucky Americans!
>>>
>>> Lets see, that'll be $5 for going below $500, $1.50 per other bank ATM
>>> transaction. $1.something for an other bank EFTPOS transaction. Now,
>>> where's my 0.25% PA interest? Lets not talk about overdrafts...
>>
>> Well, overdraft fees I find justifiable. The rest of them, I do not.
>> Most importantly, what I meant was no minimum balance and no fees
>> related to that.
>>
> Yes true, I tend to keep in the black, so have no problems. Even my
> credit card.
>
>> Most banks, even in the US, do have monthly minimums and charge you
>> "account maintenance fees" if you go below that. That is the fee I
>> object to, and refuse to open an account in a bank that has one.
>>
> Yes, my bank recently upped the account maintenance fee to $2000, that
> is just wrong.

Hmm.  I think you mean:

s/account maintenance fee/minimum balance/
s/my bank/ANZ/

Agreed, that pisses me off too.

>> For eaxmple, when I moved to the little town I live in now, I went
>> from bank to bank looking for the right one. I explained to each one
>> of them my conditions (the smart ones are willing to negotiate).
>> One rep smiled and said: "You will not find that in Rhinelander."
>>
>> I did find it, and I came back to her to tell her so.
>>
> We have basically 5 banks in Australia, and a number of other smaller
> groups who provide banking services (some of them are credit unions,
> others are overseas banks). Generally the big 4 (+1) tend to have the
> highest fees.

And they're rising all the time.

>> Anyway, the reason I object to this fee is that it is unfair and
>> ridiculous. When you deposit money in a bank, the bank takes your
>> money, invests it, and makes more money from it. They have a lot
>> of nerve to charge you a fee for depositing less than $500 (or any
>> amount).
>
> I think the one I find the hardest to comprehend is the service fees. If
> I make more than 6 electronic (ie Internet, phone, EFTPOS, ATM)
> transactions a month, I get charge $1.50 per excess transaction.
>
> I only get 2 over the counter transactions as well. Not that I need
> them.

Hmm.  I'm beginning to wonder if this is ANZ after all.  I hope not.

> It's funny really, the banks make barely anything out of personal
> banking, yet charge the highest fees. It looks as if they are
> forcing the individual business units to make the highest profits,
> rather than perhaps spreading things out across the entire business.

A while back in Germany I was left with the distinct impression that
the commercial banks were no longer interested in individual
accounts.  Maybe the same thing is happening in Australia.

Greg
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