From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 26 21:16:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D5F16A404 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdwicker@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920CA13C458 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdwicker@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so741114wri for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:16:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kZgEnOJ2b0XZpxpbuVy8vbQioPRFyP49RhdqCyzsMwD/WPE4EIt8mkjUaLxUnc5hrjO5KFpDN5gvHVJQo20Kft8zVtHEkiAHvvmu5qvOhIMPMtoQ8mEwKKh5a1by5jmxZkTNd2yiE+gjd1koew6+HhWR0ivV4oUbjJI07ATBanE= Received: by 10.90.104.14 with SMTP id b14mr4196644agc.1169846196904; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.104.7 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:16:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d19405f0701261316w4d2af0f9m10c421988a2ad15e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:16:36 -0800 From: "FreeBSD WickerBill" To: "Garrett Cooper" In-Reply-To: <45B83FEE.5030501@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45B77988.2060805@u.washington.edu> <20070124154447.A6DA013C4C7@mx1.freebsd.org> <2d19405f0701241427s35f3c60eo56d319e540c832e4@mail.gmail.com> <45B83FEE.5030501@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:16:38 -0000 On 1/24/07, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > FreeBSD WickerBill wrote: > > On 1/24/07, Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for all the replies guys! > >> It was really helpful > >> Cheers, > >> Greg > >> > >> > >> Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> > Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > >> >> Hi. > >> >> Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with > freebsd? > >> >> Which > >> >> client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env > >> >> have you > >> >> been using it? > >> > > >> > I use Xorg & XFCE4 on my FreeBSD desktop(s). For remote desktop > >> > connections: > >> > > >> > FreeBSD -> FreeBSD: ssh with X11 forwarding (-X or -Y options, see > >> > manpage). > >> > > >> > FreeBSD -> Windows: rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop). Works > >> > beautifully for work. Can't recall which, but some games don't seem > to > >> > like it. > >> > > >> > Windows -> FreeBSD: freeXer and PuTTY with X11 forwarding enabled. > >> Kind > >> > of interesting to have my FreeBSD desktop apps on my wife's lappy at > >> the > >> > breakfast table ;-). With this setup, Windows actually is the > "window > >> > manager" --- kinda disconcerting at first glance :-D > >> > > >> > Kevin Kinsey > >> > >> Overall, as many have suggest on the list there are a number of caveats > >> to using different means of connecting. > >> > >> Here's a short rundown with all of my comments: > >> > >> rdesktop and krdc (KDE rdesktop) work for connecting to Windows NT 5.0+ > >> servers. Don't have a Windows server that meets that spec? Probably > >> won't need rdesktop/krdc then.. Don't install krdc unless you also want > >> to install KDE. > >> > >> X11 forwarding through ssh is great when you're connections between you > >> and the remote machine are relatively fast (fast up on the server, fast > >> down on the client). Compression with ssh (-C flag--not available on > all > >> ssh or ssh2 implementations) is a good idea when using this to connect > >> remotely because there's a lot of data that gets piped through an X11 > >> connection. > >> > >> VNC is better for keeping remote sessions active after disconnecting > >> from the machine. There are many VNC servers software titles, but you > >> will either probably look into tightvnc (creates a new X session per > >> instance), or x11vnc (connects to an existing X session on your > >> machine). Quality, speed and latency are an issue here as VNC is sort > of > >> bad at caching tiles on the desktop. Using a lightweight wm or desktop > >> is a wise idea though without a desktop picture and sticking to X11 > only > >> widgets (xclock, xterm, etc) is a good idea as the redraw is better > than > >> gtk or qt apps or other programs (firefox, thunderbird). Try to wrap > the > >> connection using portforwarding via SSH if you're logged in from a > large > >> LAN or over a WAN because everything sent with tightvnc is cleartext, > so > >> passwords, credit card numbers, etc can be sniffed by a knowledgeable > >> individual. > >> > >> I'm still amazed that nomachinex hasn't been ported to FreeBSD, but > it's > >> a complete binary release of a 'hacked' X11 system, so the devs at the > >> nomachine group probably haven't gotten around to porting it yet. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> - -Garrett > >> - > > > > > > It's in the ports. > > > > portless nxserver > > This is a port of NoMachine's NX server, which is a way to > > use X connections over slow links without noticeable lag. > > > > WWW: http://www.nomachine.com > > > > I use it daily from a windows client to home computer running PC-BSD > (KDE) > > It runs much faster than I could ever get VNC to run. I use rdesktop > going > > from FreeBSD to Windows and it works fine too. > > WickerBill, > Ah, excellent. Didn't know that.. ports_glob doesn't always turn > up the > right answers; a tool should be made in conjunction with portell to > search package descriptions, similar to Gentoo's esearch I think.. > > Greg, > Give nxserver a shot. It's by far a lot better than VNC and it > ties > directly into working X sessions IIRC and is equivalent in speed to > remote desktop on Windows NT (in fact possibly faster from what I've > heard on slower connections). Plus it's secure (built in ssh tie-ins). > They (the devs) have a few test servers up so you can give it a shot and > see how it works. > Cheers, > - -Garrett I use psearch, found in /urs/ports/sysutils/psearch An utility for searching the FreeBSD Ports Collection It returns one liners and then I use portless to read those I want more info on...I'll have to try portell