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Date:      Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:33:49 -0500
From:      Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>
To:        Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@acm.org>
Subject:   Re: slow ZFS on FreeBSD 8.1
Message-ID:  <4D20629D.2030803@langille.org>
In-Reply-To: <20101231234747.GA8171@icarus.home.lan>
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On 12/31/2010 6:47 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 10:33:43AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:

>> Based on my experiences at home, I converted my desktop at work to
>> pure ZFS.  The only issues I've run into have been programs that
>> extensively use mmap(2) - which is a known issue with ZFS.
>
> Is your ZFS root filesystem associated with a pool that's mirrored or
> using raidzX?  What about mismatched /boot content (ZFS vs. UFS)?  What
> about booting into single-user mode?
>
> http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot indirectly hints at these problems but
> doesn't outright admit them (yet should), so I'm curious to know how
> people have solved them.  Remembering manual "one-offs" for a system
> configured this way is not acceptable (read: highly prone to
> error/mistake).  Is it worth the risk?  Most administrators don't have
> the tolerance for stuff like that in the middle of a system upgrade or
> what not; they should be able to follow exactly what's in the handbook,
> to a tee.
>
> There's a link to www.dan.me.uk at the bottom of the above Wiki page
> that outlines "the madness" that's required to configure the setup, all
> of which has to be done by hand.  I don't know many administrators who
> are going to tolerate this when deploying numerous machines, especially
> when compounded by the complexities mentioned above.

This basically outlines the reason why I do not use ZFS on root.

-- 
Dan Langille - http://langille.org/



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