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Date:      Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:37:57 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.demon.nl>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Lynx test / 2nd attempt
Message-ID:  <20001206223757.D2734@freebie.demon.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200012062053.eB6KrNF52293@mass.osd.bsdi.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:53:23PM -0800
References:  <200012062036.NAA21965@usr08.primenet.com> <200012062053.eB6KrNF52293@mass.osd.bsdi.com>

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On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:53:23PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
> > > > Please find attached the transcript of the boot of yesterdays
> > > > Lynx boot floppy. Unfortunately the system still hangs after 
> > > > the probing PnP devices message. Isn't PnP on Alpha a no-no
> > > > anyway?
> > > 
> > > ISA PnP should work just fine.  Nobody's pointed out to me how we could 
> > > obtain the other resource information from SRM, so I haven't made any 
> > > attempt to emulate the BIOS PnP functionality the x86 has (but I would 
> > > very much like to, and I know the information is available somewhere).
> > 
> > Is FreeBSD being "a PnP OS" an alpha need?
> 
> I don't think I understand this question.
> 
> > The Shanley/MindShare PnP book documents what an OS needs to do
> > to be a "PnP OS".  The one problem is that the POST code on most
> > cards assumes POSTing by an x86 processor running ROMed x86 code
> > from the card itself. 
> 
> This assumes that the card has POST firmware at all.  Most ISA PnP cards 
> do not.  Most BIOS PnP devices are initted by platform firmware (which 
> the Alpha has already).  Video cards and supported SCSI cards are notable 
> exceptions; the Alpha platforms run the video BIOS in an x86 emulator, 
> and the SCSI POST code is integrated into the platform firmware.
> 
> As an aside, I don't think that the PnP scan has anything to do with the 
> system hanging; it's simply the last probe message printed.  I loathe 
> people that assume that because the last message printed came from 
> subsystem X that it must be subsystem X that is failing.  Boot 
> verbose, you lame bastards. 8)

I did. And posted it. And the last failure was not due to a programming
error but due to a faulty floppy disk. AS2100A appears to boot fine into 
sysinstall.

-- 
Wilko Bulte  	 					Arnhem, the Netherlands
wilko@freebsd.org  	http://www.freebsd.org 		http://www.nlfug.nl



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