From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 23 23:39:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDB237B401 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocke.transit.net (jocke.globalwire.se [213.136.34.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C1A43FD7 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:39:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@snowfall.se) Received: from snowfall.se (h96n1fls35o1122.telia.com [217.211.14.96]) by jocke.transit.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D379B7E9; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3EA78652.10205@snowfall.se> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:38:10 +0200 From: Stefan Cars User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030327 Debian/1.3-4 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <41371.192.107.26.131.1051112914.squirrel@www.duncanyoung.com> <3EA6D19D.5040106@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <3EA6D19D.5040106@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Miguel_Gon=E7alves?= Subject: Re: Vinum in FreeBSD 4.x branch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 06:39:19 -0000 I agree! We have been working with 8 servers using vinum in production for over two years now. As Bill says we got some panics during configuration but we have never experienced it after we went live. / Stefan Bill Moran wrote: > Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, I thought I'd chime in with > mine: > > I've been using Vinum in production environments for about 4 years now. > I have seen the panics during configuration that you describe. But it's > not a big deal (to me) as the machine is not yet in production during > vinum configuration. Also, I haven't seen a Vinum panic in 3 years. > > For actual production use ... the system works great. Performance is > excellent, failover is perfect and recovery works well. Never had > problems with a production Vinum system once it's up and running. > > I will concur that it takes a bit of work to understand configuration > of Vinum, and one should be well versed in it before attempting to > reconfigure an existing system. Hopefully, someone will find the > time to make the user interface more user-friendly (perhaps a port ... > I know, now that I've brought it up I've volunteered as well ...) > > Duncan Young wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Though I run vinum at home, I would actually suggest not using it in a >> corperate environment. There are a couple of problems with it which >> make >> it less than desirable. >> >> 1) No root disk support (well I last time I checked it didn't). This is >> main reason not to use vinum. >> >> 2) Configuration screw ups can cause panics etc. I've also had other >> panics, but alas at the time I had more real memory than swap poartition >> so no crash dump. I actually can't quite remember what trigered it, >> but I >> think it was to do with the automounter unmounting volumes. Anyway, I >> don't consider it to be competly stable, especially since >> configuration is >> not idiot proof (i.e. the state of disks can get screwed up). By way of >> comparison, I've used veritas volume manager, solstice Disk suit, >> carrion >> disk arrays, lvm (linux and HPUX), etc. All of these are much more >> idiot >> proof. I'm sure vinum will get there, but its not quite there yet. >> >> >> For simplicity and peace of mind, I would sugest some sort of hardware >> raid controler and mirror everything. >> >> Duncan >> >> >>> Hello fellow BSDers! >>> >>> I am about to install a new server on a corportate environment >>> where failure is not an option (that's why I am installing >>> FreeBSD :-) ). To minimize hard disk problems I intend to use >>> Vinum. >>> >>> I just want to know how is the stability and robustness of >>> Vinum in the 4.x branch. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Miguel Gonçalves >>> >>> PS: I know this is not a good thing to do but can you please >>> CC to me as I am not on the list due to limitations of my >>> mail server. Thanks again! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > >