From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jun 20 06:02:14 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA18690 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 06:02:14 -0700 Received: from whisker.internet-eireann.ie (whisker.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.34.204]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA18683 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 06:02:01 -0700 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by whisker.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA13261 for hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 14:02:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 14:02:22 +0100 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199506201302.OAA13261@whisker.internet-eireann.ie> To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: more gritching on the net.. Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Path: gate2.internet-eireann.ie!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!news.mathworks.com!news.duke.edu!agate!nickkral From: nickkral@sextans.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Nick Kralevich) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: BUGS in FreeBSD (Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD) Date: 19 Jun 1995 18:24:18 GMT Organization: Electrical Engineering Computer Science Department, University of California at Berkeley Lines: 40 Message-ID: <3s4fci$prm@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <3qfhhv$7uc@titania.pps.pgh.pa.us> <3rkgc0$8o7@beethoven.orc.soton.ac.uk> <3s323f$87p@agate.berkeley.edu> <3s47ev$gi@news.nynexst.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sextans.eecs.berkeley.edu Xref: gate2.internet-eireann.ie comp.os.linux.advocacy:13014 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:3149 In article <3s47ev$gi@news.nynexst.com>, H.J. Lu wrote: >I found at least one strange bug in a BSD networking application. >It seems that the BSD system could tolerate some junks which were >rejected by Linux. I spent several hours trying to figure out why >it didn't work under Linux. The last place I checked was the BSD source >code. I couldn't believe it worked under BSD. It was a miracle :-(. Well, I found 3 in one week (well, two were actual bugs, the other was a non-feature). And I've only been using FreeBSD for 2 weeks now! So much for the stable code base that FreeBSD claims. I like Linux much better. BTW, the bugs and non-features are: Inability to turn on or off BROADCAST or POINTOPOINT flag for loopback device. Packets are still transmitted even though the UP flag is not turned on in an interface. "ifconfig -a" reports the interface as being down, but packets are still transmitted. To test this, start up a SLIP connection, then type "ifconfig sl[whatever] down" and see if you can still use your connection. You shouldn't be able to. non-feature: The "rwhod" doesn't check connections to make sure they are still valid before sending packets out. All the interfaces are registered on startup, and are never updated. (BTW, Linux has the exact same problem with it's "rwhod" command). The program was written this way, so I consider it a non-feature instead of a bug. Actually, if someone has an answer for these problems, I would really enjoy hearing them. FreeBSD has given my roommate nothing but problems (although he claims he enjoys it). :) Take care, -- Nick Kralevich nickkral@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu -- LINUX, the FREE | University of California at | Nick Kralevich Operating System of the | Berkeley. Department of | nickkral@cory.eecs. future available via anon | Electrical Engineering and | berkeley.edu FTP. Ask me about it. | Computer Science. | finger for PGP