From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 22 20:08:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DED16A4DD for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DB343D45 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:08:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1820097uge for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:08:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Aq9yXOM9TMOkLQTVEexzt28IKu9rnoJbWoXACxsMQUsSQ5AJg2LeY08KKEFGEyF6uhceUg0+EL96PAS6Rw0K9DHTuSg7zAmwT1ZJfMLzqv6GVvc5HNnKPJg9ZNyjtlwiTh6Nqka1c59pWIgxagOST6jhj+LVGfJRlEV2UCgFT9E= Received: by 10.78.151.3 with SMTP id y3mr906946hud; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 04:08:04 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: <20060722145621.A1799@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060722145621.A1799@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What I would like to see, or "How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:08:06 -0000 On 7/23/06, User Freebsd wrote: > > > On various lists, including this one, there is talk about how to we make > hardware vendors sit up and take more notice of us ... alot of the > negative responses back seem to be 'we are too small of a group', but, of > couse, nobody out there can really give any even *reasonable* numbers of > desktops and servers deployed with FreeBSD ... > > What I'd love to see is a *project initiated* (or FreeBSD Foundation) > FreeBSD reporting mechanism similar to: > > http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes/myuptimes > > Something just for FreeBSD users (well, all *BSD users should be invited) > ... uptime not being the really big thing here, but stuff like version of > FreeBSD being run, country being run in, maybe have it part dmesg on > startup and report devices in use, etc ... > > Come up with reports like # of hosts using fxp vs em devices, etc ... > although it may be a bit more difficult, I don't know, but report on > specific hardware being used ... > > Statistics that either Core, or the FreeBSD Foundation, can use to show > vendors they are talking to about what is currently in use ... but also to > show developers themselves what device drivers are actually in use, that > sort of thing ... > > Nothing that I'd think would be 'sensitive information', but information > that would be useful from either a marketing, or support, point of view > ... > > And market / promote it ... > > Basically, unless I'm mistaken, right now we have *nothing* to base > numbers on, except maybe the netcraft report(s)? ... but, that only > includes hosts running web servers ... how many are running firewalls? > desktops? mail servers? etc ... > > We need to show vendors we aren't some "hobbiest group", and towards that > end, producing some sort of up to date #s would really help, I would think > ... show them we are a market worth looking at ... > > why not make something similar to the linux counter, and let users register and have their registration number.