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Date:      Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:06:55 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Spidey <beaupran@jsp.umontreal.ca>
To:        cjclark@home.com
Cc:        peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Examining FBSD set[ug]ids and their use
Message-ID:  <14367.64303.156671.655102@anarcat.dyndns.org>
References:  <14365.48408.87230.710344@anarcat.dyndns.org> <199911020449.XAA03496@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>

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After some comments I received, I finally agree with your
position... :/

I guess I do not know ping that well :)

I'll repeat the argument someone gave me and that I found convincing
enough:

"
In terms of network load, normal pings are relatively minor (and flood
pings are only available to ruid==0) - if someone wants to upset a
network, they can easily flood it with TCP or UDP packets.
"

<Thanks peter.. :)>

Good bye!

--- Big Brother told Crist J. Clark to write, at 23:49 of November 1:
> Spidey wrote,
> > > ># Allow users to bind on a socket (which? where?)
> > > >	ping mode=4555
> > > Needed to allow ordinary mortals to sent raw IP (ICMP) packets.
> > 
> > I don't think this should be enable by default... on a shell box, this 
> > could cause some pretty dense headaches...
> 
> You don't think mortal users should be able to ping? IMHO, ping is a
> _very_ basic utility that generally should be turned on. I don't want
> to have to 'su' to root everytime I want to ping a host to see if it
> is awake. Same goes for traceroute(8).
> 
> If you want to turn off the setuid (in which case you might as well
> chmod to 700 as well), you can, but I really don't see it as the
> default setup.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com
> 
> 
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C'est que l'adage pretend que pour croire,
L'important ne serait que de voir

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