From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 7 18:35: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C89137B400; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tierzero.apana.org.au (sa.apana.org.au [203.14.158.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA7F43E7B; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bastill@sa.apana.org.au) Received: from there (dialup-13.pasa.apana.org.au [203.14.158.142]) by tierzero.apana.org.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g781YsL64553; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:04:55 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from bastill@sa.apana.org.au) Message-Id: <200208080134.g781YsL64553@tierzero.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian Astill Reply-To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au To: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: Is simplicity despised? WAS: What do we need in a FreeBSD desktop? Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:04:00 +0930 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg 'groggy' Lehey), questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200208071446.g77Ekgw08922@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200208071446.g77Ekgw08922@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 00:16, Jerry McAllister wrote: > Do not, I repeat DO NOT change the default editor from vi. Go ahead and > make it really really easy for someone to choose another one - it is > already quite easy. For you, yes! That's the point. If you are immediately confronted with ee, le, nedit, whatever, you know PRECISELY what to do and will do so immediately at little inconvenience to yourself. Consider however, my being confronted with the vi screen and taking twenty minutes searching documents to find out how to get out of there! NOT nice. > But changing the default editor is a bad bad idea. > It works well under every environment - even some you newbies can't > imagine exist. If we can't even imagine it, I guess we won't be confronted with it too often :-) Please remember we are only talking about the "instant workstation" install - the very thing a newbie might find helpful. I don't think there has been any discussion (yet ) about changing the vi default for other types of install. -- Regards, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message