From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Nov 18 16:49:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from echunga.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14B037B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by echunga.lemis.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eAJ0kkK50598; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:16:46 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:16:46 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Brett Glass Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: GPL rant number 31391 (was: Jordan Hubbard on Darwin) Message-ID: <20001119111646.C5877@echunga.lemis.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001118142924.00cb6850@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001118142924.00cb6850@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 02:36:09PM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 18 November 2000 at 14:36:09 -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > Jordan Hubbard's preview of Darwin just went up at > > http://salon.com/tech/review/2000/11/17/hubbard_osx/index.html > > Overall, it's a good analysis -- especially the last section. However, the > article was marred by one EXTREMELY disturbing section in which Jordan beat > the drum for the FSF's software -- licensed under an unethical "poison > pill" license which runs counter to the BSD philosophy -- rather than for > BSD-licensed equivalents. Jordan writes: > >> Of course, the proof that I was working with a real operating system would >> be to compile something -- to get some of my favorite Unix-ish software >> running on this system. So I promptly fetched the source code to the GNU >> Project's bash 2.04, my favorite shell and one that didn't happen to be >> included with OS X. I unpacked it without any trouble. (Let's hear it for >> GNU tar, gzip, cpio and pax being standard components!) > > If Jordan is to be a cheerleader -- which he does well when he > deigns to do it -- it would be nice if he at least cheered for the > right team. The FSF would love to wipe BSD off the face of the > planet, since it inconveniently interferes with Richard Stallman's > anti-business, anti-programmer agenda. The last thing it needs is > encouragement or PR from the one camp that actually delivers truly > free software. I agree 100% with Jordan. In fact, that's exactly what I'm going to be doing with my Sun 3/60s running NetBSD once I finish my mail. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message