From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 17:38:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CBA16A41F; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:38:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B1E43D46; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:38:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4Hc6aF034327; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:38:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA4Hc6Qu002164; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:38:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jA4Hc6Gs002163; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:38:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:38:06 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Emily Boyd Message-ID: <20051104173806.GK602@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200511030125.jA31PLrJ023110@bright.research.att.com> <20051104103619.GB602@gothic.blackend.org> <20051104124921.01f8d98d@localhost> <436B80B4.6080107@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <436B80B4.6080107@freebsd.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Huge fixed-width fonts on web mailing list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:38:09 -0000 On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:39:32AM +1100, Emily Boyd wrote: > > > >Deleting the font-size line should be enough. > > > >I think there is no reason to increase pre's > >font size above the default. > > There is actually a reason for that line. > > Without that compensation, pre text ends up tiny on the majority of > browsers/platforms (try it and see :) > > It sounds as though the Firefox default configuration under FreeBSD is > changing the size of pre. I'll have to see if there's a workaround; > simply removing the line will fix Firefox on FreeBSD, but then there'll > be a worse issue with the text being unreadable on most > browsers/platforms. I'll look into this further. > I'm not really into CSS, but this sounds weird to me. I mean if Mozilla and Firefox have issues on this point, it's not new cause everything under http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/ use the same CSS layout (docbook.css) which does not define any font size, and people hardly complained about it. Well, under FreeBSD I always set a minimum size and the size for proportional and monospace fonts. I have Zeldman's book[1], I should read it regarding this font issue. For the moment I just commented out the font-size on global.css, this should please many persons. Marc [1] Designing with Web Standards, ISBN: 0735712018