From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:35:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDB716A52F for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:35:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B455143D9D for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:35:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D84AE1C000B9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:35:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B25A21C00095 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:35:38 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050506183538730.B25A21C00095@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:35:38 +0200 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1305875013.20050506203538@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> References: <20050506105722.099954BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <94a56a65c9550600c114e053bc08456f@chrononomicon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:35:40 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > A) You sent messages to unknown hundreds or thousands of people on the > mailing list, all of which could have a cached copy of your messages, > and now wonder about privacy? I've explained the differences before; perhaps I need to explain them again. When you sign up to a mailing list, you implicitly give permission to distribute your posts to other members of the list. You do _not_ give permission to have your posts archived, and you do _not_ give permission to have your posts published and made accessible to people who are not on the list. > B) The archives are searchable and referenced, and you claim you didn't > know that despite the number of self appointed upper-echelons that > reply with a curt "Look in the archives" type answer? It has to be part of the confirmation process. You have to require that members accept these terms in order to subscribe. Do you really think that software companies and major Web sites have those little check boxes that say "I accept" just for decoration? > C) Your words are being re-mirrored by being embedded inside other > posts that REPLY to your messages. You honestly think that a volunteer > is going to delete your messages AND all messages referencing your > name? You don't need a volunteer, you just need software to do it. And it's not hard to write. > There should be. We'll call it The Law of Common Sense. The law of common sense says that you don't agree to anything that isn't in writing and does not proceed _inevitably_ from that to which you agree. Archives and publication are not inevitable consequences of being on a mailing list, therefore you must agree to them explicitly. > None on the list that I know of is actively digging into your > background or prying more secrets from you regarding your personal > information ... What makes you think they would notify you if they were? > The way the Internet works isn't a secret. This policy is not "the way the Internet works." -- Anthony