From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Feb 17 10:12:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8EB37B6F8 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:12:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.19 2000/01/29 00:15:43 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id LAA11132; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:12:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id LAA18382; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:12:13 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id NAA14480; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:12:12 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14508.14844.27563.348804@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:12:12 -0700 (MST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2 In-Reply-To: <7327.950809955@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <14508.8230.213769.821490@hip186.ch.intel.com> <7327.950809955@zippy.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, February 17, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ] > > Fixed this last night. cool. > Hmmm. Odd, I've always noted the opposite. If you do the novice install > (which everyone should if they're trying to test the "typical case"), the > mouse working properly is the typical case. Rats. I should have said I did a "custom install". I've never used the "novice install option." Here's some more info regarding the mouse. As I said before it is a MouseMan+ ps/2 mouse. I know from experience that I cannot run moused and get the "wheel" events to be seen by X. So, I don't run moused on my -stable box. Therefore, I chose not to have sysinstall "setup the mouse." When I got to the step of "configuring X" (running X's GUI setup--I can't remember its contrived name...), the mouse was completely frozen. Only when I used the keyboard to tab over to the appropriate place, type "/dev/psm0," TAB off that dialog and hit "a" (to apply the change) did the mouse respond. After I did this, the GUI X config went perfectly. I've had this happen before when I installed 3.0 on this same machine last year around this time. Except then, I was too stupid to hit "a" to apply the change and I just hacked up a XF86Config file by hand ... In the "novice" case, does sysinstall run moused? If so, does the X GUI install look for /dev/sysmouse by default (I can't remember ... not near the machine to try it now). If so, maybe that's why the "novice" one works. I just didn't pick that because I knew I didn't want to run moused..... > How did you install and configure GNOME+E? I just tried a fresh install > and selected it off the desktop menu and it worked just fine, exactly as > you say you'd like it to work. Yeah, that's all I did. I just chose the "GNOME+E" menu and it told me "I'm installing things" and that was it. However, when I finished configuring the system, rebooted, logged in as "me" and typed "startx" I got twm. There was no .xinitrc. ? Once I added gnome-session to a .xinitrc file everything worked beautifully with GNOME + E. > This is a question for the I18N folks; I don't even try to puzzle out > the various quirks of locale settings these days. :) Well, perhaps at the very LEAST we could put skeletons of what needs to be set, commented out in /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc and put a mention of "setup your correct locale settings by editing one of these files" in the default /etc/motd? And, maybe a mention of doing that very thing could be given as a dialog in sysinstall ... I dunno ... I just know that the variables need to be set somewhere so that new users don't get freaked when they see lots of warnings from GTK/Glib/Perl/etc. stuff.... At the very least, I'll send in patches to these two files to -doc tonight ... > Thanks! > > - Jordan No problem! I gotta contribute where I can ;-) Do you think there will be a 4.0-RC 3 ISO before -RELEASE is officially rolled? I'm leaving this new HDD that I did the install on last night "open" for a while. If there is another one, I will be most happy to download, burn, and re-install. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message