From owner-cvs-all Sun Apr 7 13:42:19 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D48237B41E for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 13:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobrecita.freebsd.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g37Kfex7069971; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 00:41:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by pobrecita.freebsd.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g37KfaEC069970; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 00:41:37 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 00:41:34 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Cejka Rudolf Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/colldef cs_CZ.ISO8859-2.src Message-ID: <20020407204132.GA69778@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20020407170804.A79700@fit.vutbr.cz> <20020407181849.GA68881@nagual.pp.ru> <20020407205501.A84706@fit.vutbr.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020407205501.A84706@fit.vutbr.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 20:55:01 +0200, Cejka Rudolf wrote: > It seems that you are taking your new README as an axiom. > Why you want that all collations have to be ASCII compatible? Because programs gets broken in other case. Almost any current system strcoll usage suppose ASCII-compatible charset and produce unpredictable bugs otherwise. We are not ready to free-form collates yet. > In which norm is it said? Previous collation sequence was > not broken, so please use atleast forced commit and write down > proper comment, why you have to break our collation. Because it is not in the form suitable for FreeBSD. Do you check other collates before making your variant? Do you notice their similarity in some aspects? > I saw both files, but please answer all my concrete questions > with concrete and constructive respones. Maybe it is good > example, but it is very broken for Czech and Slovak collation > so we need our collation definition, which was correct and now > is broken and I can not use sort anymore until I (and others) > fix collation by hand. I preserve as much of your variant as I can, making it ASCII backward-compatible. I can't see how it can be very broken. > Please answer my questions and if there is something against > another norms, I can consult it with other Czech and Slovak > people on both sides, FreeBSD and Linux - but it is possible > just based on some concrete and constructive reponse, why you > are doing what you are doing. I am not sure what your question is exactly. There are certain rules. I.e when you sort ASCII file, it must remains the same as with LANG=C for compatibility reasons. Your variant not pass this requirement. I don't remember why I don't reject it initially and let it in. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message