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Date:      Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:09:18 -0800
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, guru@sisis.de
Subject:   Re: 6.0-REL && ports/devel/subversion
Message-ID:  <200512311209.18367.kstewart@owt.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051231130846.GA20156@almare.Sisis.de>
References:  <20051231130846.GA20156@almare.Sisis.de>

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On Saturday 31 December 2005 05:08 am, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:33:21 -0800 Kent Stewart escribio
>
> > On Friday 30 December 2005 11:04 pm, guru@sisis.de wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > with the PANIC's I still have to work out, what's going on; I can
> > > now reproduce them by:
> > >
> > > - booting into normal runlevel
> > > - login as root and than
> > >   # kldload kqemu
> > >   # kldstat
> > >   # su - user --> PANIC
> > >
> > > Any hints on that?
> >
> > Boot to single user and fsck your system. It sounds like you have
> > some bad sectors. If the fsck removed anything you just added such
> > as header files, you could have problems like you saw. FreeBSD will
> > do a background fsck but sometimes you need to do it in the
> > foreground.
>
> I think I did one of the fsck in foreground because it was unable
> to repair the file system and asked me to do it manualy; but I'll
> do it again in single user; I also have now fetched sysutils/memtest
> and will stress the memory because the 1st PANIC occured before
> I had build qemu, ie. I don't think that this is related to that
> kernel module itself; after the memtest I'll do a complete reinstall
> from scratch of the 6.0-RELEASE from CD;

Most of the time, it can not repair a file system with serious errors=20
when you have it mounted. That is why you boot to single user mode.=20
=46reeBSD does not tolerate HDs with bad sectors.

You would have to really mess up your install for a reinstall to help. I=20
usually joke that a reinstall only helps on Windows :). I always choose=20
the typical install because that has been tested the most. You can=20
always tweak a working system but you can have problems when you pick=20
and choose at the first install.

>
> > With a release, any panic is important. They just don't happen
> > unless something is wrong. Portupgrade or portmanage can reduce the
> > chances of building modules out of order. If you build them
> > manually out of order, problems like the one you saw with neon can
> > happen.
>
> I did not do that, I've just installed 6.0-RELEASE from the
> distribution CD-ROM and after the primary installation procedure I
> went to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 to make the desktop KDE and meanwhile
> that I was copying my files from my home dir of the old notebook
> (only userland files, nothing in kernel) and this gave the first
> PANIC after some hours;
>
> > If it is software, you can back out ports that you load until you
> > don't have problems.
>
> this time after the installation of 6.0-RELEASE I'll only make
> /usr/ports/emulators/qemu to see if I can reproduce the PANIC
> with the above procedure; we will see...

I would still bet on hardware errors but anytime you make a bet you can=20
be wrong. When you find what was causing the problem, you can say=20
"=A1Ahh!" :).
>
> I'm not in hurry, because the old notebook is still alive...

I seriously belive in having a back up until everything works. When you=20
have a backup and something dies, you still have the back up. One of=20
anything can translate in to nothing works when you have trouble. I=20
have 3 email addresses and if almost nothing works I have hotmail on 5=20
computers. I can only deal with the interface for 5 minutes or so until=20
I mess up something.

>
> Thanks for your hints so far. =A1Qu=E9 tengas buen Fin del A=F1o!

De nada :). It is a day to listen to CDs de m=FAsica latina that I have=20
worn out playing them in my car. Right now La 5a estaci=F3n is playing.=20
After them, I will play Elefante.

Kent
=46eliz A=F1o Nuevo

>
> 	Matthias

=2D-=20
Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

"Nunca te acostar=E1s sin saber una cosa m=E1s"
http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html



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