From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 3 10: 6:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995AF37B405 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D4643EC5 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA26806; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:06:44 +0200 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:06:44 +0200 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: fkittred@gwi.net Cc: Michael Sierchio , dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu Subject: Re: wi0 and mtu setting [bad idea] In-Reply-To: <200301031607.h03G7PX17718@valen.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You are definetely right, setting the MTU might be really bad thing, but why dont you let the person setting it decide it for himself? Thus FreeBSD wi driver can support setting this value higher than 1500 in your own risk. Its a functionality request only. I dont suggest that you set the default mtu for wi driver something higher than 1500! Evren On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 fkittred@gwi.net wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:22:34 +0200 (WET) Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > I definetely agree and obviously since mikrotikos supports this then linux > > should do since mikrotikos is built on linux. Why shouldnt FreeBSD support > > setting mtu of wireless interfaces higher than 1500 > > Setting a "wireless interface" to a MTU of higher than 1500 octets is > ill-advised unless you are in very specific, unusual conditions. > > The subject header talks about "wi0", which implies IEEE Ethernet > 802.11b standard interface. > > The IEEE maintains the Ethernet standards. Start with: > > http://www.ieee.org > > or > > http://www.ieee802.org > > >From a quick glance at the standard: > > "IEEE Std 802.11b-1999 (Supplement to ANSI/IEEE Std 802.11, 1999 Edition) > Supplement to IEEE Standard for Information technology > Telecommunications and information exchange between systems Local > and metropolitan area networks Specific requirements Part 11: > Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) > specifications: Higher-Speed Physical Layer Extension in the 2.4 GHz > Band" > > it is not clear to me that MTU > 1500 octets are legal with 802.11b. > > If your system is connected to the Internet, setting the MTU on your > FreeBSD system, which is probably not a core router, to anything above > 1500 is a stupid idea. If you don't already know this, and don't > understand the reasons why, you would be best advised not to mess with > the MTU at all. > > Stick with the default until you gain more experience. You might want > to read up on "packet fragmentation" and "MTU discovery" for > explanations why this is a good idea. > > good luck, > fletcher > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message