From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Nov 26 18:36:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6761BE514 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.evolve.de (mail.evolve.de [213.239.217.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.evolve.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Mszq1d8Cz47fM for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id aa1315bb; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:35:58 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=grem.de; h=date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=20180501; bh=Yn3uJsg+ 40gm03Gs23osJm0F8Bc=; b=mX5gNyXrxeHn1ikVRhnSROW7uWzvAhdk7uABkpyn ZYgvJeODyDYEpt9CB6eLzrTn5lbTd54RRNd6npsxALrWU0f7OITpcaxco5bhB73o JscwAQOnA8Dls4YV4sOw1NgZQXx7PWYOFXx5I9bLpDjb69xnmTUYDMmcIQH3XXNJ aWFE1KoXI1FQtyUxWSFIw/Lzy0vZ4nf7V6Eh3BWM1cFYxfe4bvpob/SCoiMRBJYF +ihz9AXUqX8HxC24i0jYUR/kjFHeYEXB9Bfd7cfO9AUexePLzrWGqdq2ZXNDx7T9 /rrauUDT0mp+P1BubvdEv2M+FzR6OVReTUhoby66CJEcrQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=grem.de; h=date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=20180501; b=MV OdV0dp3jhl9mQ34IUlkd6o7FkJzMQSqX4SamDLKzjvC5PgvGfaZBOPjKml9/UFXL TMwPS20XWWfVp/l8Y9w6EjOaoFcNiMjaLhA4kDPvycMNATcbrfB9Rbf9WEXuJEvM Ne7wQ2tiQBpnJaeUUtLHfOS2kLki37vQIFHbmEKICpRjqJk+ldbtitXgkJM8FVye znzqTM/ttVUxWDf18ujDLZZQnCQbr+zecQv65rdaLDf2oM4M/3wPeExOS1bik3eR XUYNGLb0zgUmKZ5ZiDjrWjIRNJM2Mql24zdGlk03vuqaSfh9kLy0bUJcU8qafEgj OW4NCjtGMcjoeey1R2Yg== Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id f2c67abc TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:35:55 +0100 From: Michael Gmelin To: Warner Losh Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Killing Giant for 13 Message-ID: <20191126193555.047a63cf@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201911260917.xAQ9Hcf1001914@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) X-Face: $wrgCtfdVw_H9WAY?S&9+/F"!41z'L$uo*WzT8miX?kZ~W~Lr5W7v?j0Sde\mwB&/ypo^}> +a'4xMc^^KroE~+v^&^#[B">soBo1y6(TW6#UZiC]o>C6`ej+i Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWJBwe5BQDl LASZU0/LTEWEfHbyj0Txi32+sKrp1Mv944X8/fm1rS+cAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAAL EwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH3wESCxwC7OBhbgAAACFpVFh0Q29tbWVudAAAAAAAQ3Jl YXRlZCB3aXRoIFRoZSBHSU1QbbCXAAAAAghJREFUOMu11DFvEzEUAGCfEhBVFzuq AKkLd0O6VrIQsLXVSZXoWE5N1K3DobBBA9fQpRWc8OkWouaIjedWKiyREOKs+3PY fvalCNjgLVHeF7/3bMtBzV8C/VsQ8tecEgCcDgrzjekwKZ7TwsJZd/ywEKwwP+ZM 8P3drTsAwWn2mpWuDDuYiK1bFs6De0KUUFw0tWxm+D4AIhuuvZqtyWYeO7jQ4Aea 7jUqI+ixhQoHex4WshEvSXdood7stlv4oSuFOC4tqGcr0NjEqXgV4mMJO38nld4+ xKNxRDon7khyKVqY7YR4d+Cg0OMrkWXZOM7YDkEfKiilCn1qYv4mighZiynuHHOA Wq9QJq+BIES7lMFUtcikMnkDGHUoncA+uHgrP0ctIEqfwLHzeSo+eUA66AqzwN6n 2ZHJhw6Qh/PoyC/QENyEyC/AyNjq74Bs+3UH0xYwzDUC4B97HgLocg1QLYgDDO1v f3UX9Y307Ew4AHh67YAFFsxEpkXwpXY3eIgMhAAE3R19L919nNnuD2wlPcDE3UeT L2ytEICQib9BXgS2fU8PrD82ToYO1OEmMSnYTjSqSv9wdC0tPYC+rQRQD9ESnldF CyqfmiYW+tlALt8gH2xrMdC/youbjzPXEun+/ReXsMCDyve3dZc09fn2Oas8oXGc Jj6/fOeK5UmSMPmf/jL+GD8BEj0k/Fn6IO4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Mszq1d8Cz47fM X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=grem.de header.s=20180501 header.b=mX5gNyXr; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@grem.de designates 213.239.217.29 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@grem.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[grem.de:s=20180501]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:213.239.217.29/32]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grem.de]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[grem.de:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.32)[ipnet: 213.239.192.0/18(-0.02), asn: 24940(-1.57), country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:213.239.192.0/18, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:36:08 -0000 On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:21:20 -0700 Warner Losh wrote: > However, the hpt27xx driver turns out not to be Giant locked on > versions of FreeBSD >= 10. So it's off the list. Is that a real list that could be made publicly available, so users can check if any of the hardware they use will be affected? Thanks, Michael -- Michael Gmelin