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Date:      Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:49:58 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com>
Cc:        Daryl Chance <dchance@valuedata.net>, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: 4.1 Release....MIIBUS 
Message-ID:  <200008232149.PAA52708@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:09:05 PDT." <200008232109.OAA86366@bubba.whistle.com> 
References:  <200008232109.OAA86366@bubba.whistle.com>  

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In message <200008232109.OAA86366@bubba.whistle.com> Archie Cobbs writes:
: Warner Losh writes:
: > : not marked.  I noticed that 4.1 Release miibus is still not
: > : marked as (required), is it no longer required, or is it still
: > : not marked?  I ahven't tried compiling it with miibus commented
: > : out, I'm just assuming it's still required
: > 
: > miibus is still required for any ethernet card with a mii.  Which  is
: > basically all of them produced in the last few years.  my trusty
: > ne2000 doesn't need it :-)
: 
: Would you ever want "miibus" even if you're NOT using any of
: the cards that require it?

No.

: I guess you might need it to be able to KLD load one of those
: drivers.. ? But that's no argument becuse you could just have
: a miibus.ko that was a dependency of those drivers.

Already does that.

: So why is it a separate option?

because it is a driver.  Why is pci a separate driver?  While most
computers have it, not all do.  Likewise with miibus.

Warner


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