From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Dec 31 05:35:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00538 for freebsd-arch-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:35:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00533 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03009 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:35:03 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id OAA82104 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:35:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03866 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:12:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA21332; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:11:30 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:11:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Warner Losh cc: dg@root.com, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kld and on demand device loading In-Reply-To: <199812290702.AAA24239@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <199812290652.WAA20403@implode.root.com> David Greenman writes: > > The automatic on-demand driver loading has always been our goal with > > loadable modules. Unloading is more tricky and may be undesirable in > > certain circumstances. Memory is also cheap enough that unloading isn't > > a very high priority. ...not that I'd be anything less than enthusiastic > > to see it implemented, though. > > For the short term, should I hack pccardd to automatically try to load > a module that it doesn't know about? Or should there be a more > comprehensive plan in place before making such a quick hack? > > It would be nice to have a fairly stockish kernel, and have modules > that I want to debug loaded and unloaded as I hack on them. It would > be even nicer if they weren't part of the normal kernel, and that they > were loaded automatically when I inserted the card... Please go ahead and make some experiments in this area. I'm currently working on shifting PCI into the new-bus system and I've got a brand new Tecra 8000 to play with, so hopefully I can make some progress with cardbus soon too. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message