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Date:      Fri, 8 Nov 2019 07:31:08 +0000 (UTC)
From:      Roderick <hruodr@gmail.com>
To:        Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Roderick <hruodr@gmail.com>, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>,  FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>,  Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>,  Chris Ross <cross+freebsd@distal.com>
Subject:   Re: UEFI ISO boot not working in 12.1 ?
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2019, Kyle Evans wrote:

> The lua replacement is almost certainly not related to the problem at
> hand, and I suspect it is not related to your problem either (unless
> your problem is simply that you hate lua). Do you have a PR open for
> any real problem?

The problem appeared with FreeBSD 12.0, with the introduction of lua,
and I am not the only one affected.

Before, there were no problems with the loader or installer. It is
very clear that both got worse, not better with the time.

>From millions of FreeBSD users only a handfull may need to write
programs in the loader, one can expect from them that they learn
forth if they seriously need to program the loader. Or they can
self inject lua, python or what they want, if they really cannot
learn forth.

What I hate is not lua, but the bloating process that make things worse
for the sake of bloating.

The best would be to revert the changes.

Rodrigo



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