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Date:      Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:35:20 +0200
From:      Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Cc:        Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de>
Subject:   Re: ACX100 Firmware Licensing
Message-ID:  <200410300135.24727.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
In-Reply-To: <41829D84.5000903@errno.com>
References:  <20041027161650.GA39008@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <clt9ij$pd$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <41829D84.5000903@errno.com>

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On Friday, 29. October 2004 21:44, Sam Leffler wrote:

> > "Activism pays off for OpenBSD"
> > http://theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/29/1098992287663.html
>
> And this form of activism also turns off lots of vendors.

That would mean there's anybody to actually turn off. Like you say yourself:

> The open=20
> source market is virtually non-existent to vendors so you will never get
> anyone to do anything by arguing they should make a change because it
> will increase their sales.  All the vendors Theo&co are going after are
> bit players with inferior products that are in trouble in one way or
> another.

=2E.. and are widespread as built-in devices in today's cheap massmarket=20
hardware. And OSS operating systems need cheap massmarket hardware to run o=
n.

> The proper way to make things happen is to find a vendor that=20
> is basing a product on an OSS and use their influence to make things
> happen.

So you're saying OpenBSD should find themselves a Yahoo, Inc and use them t=
o=20
pressure vendors and that's the decent way then? Ridiculous.

I myself returned the pair of el-cheapo TI-1131 wireless nics I initially=20
bought and got Atheros-based hardware instead, but many laptop users with=20
built-in hardware who don't want to run Windows do not have that choice. If=
=20
Theo tries to pave a way for them, it's a good thing.

=2D-=20
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