From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 27 16:43:30 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191EE453EE0 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CLHZn723hz3bRm for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id F13864540C6; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1046453FDE for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CLHZn66Pjz3bMP; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tensor.andric.com (tensor.andric.com [IPv6:2001:470:7a58:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "tensor.andric.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: dim) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0DCE2F908; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:7a58::424:16c3:e4c5:882c] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:7a58:0:424:16c3:e4c5:882c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6C344FC84; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:43:27 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitry Andric Message-Id: <16692305-26DC-4AAA-9962-47052807922A@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6B45A323-91E0-48AE-AA22-B9630AB29508"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Subject: Re: Switch the default locale to C.UTF-8 before FreeBSD 13 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:43:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20201027154720.mjmn5cofvkqoyd5w@ivaldir.net> Cc: "arch@freebsd.org" To: Baptiste Daroussin References: <20201027154720.mjmn5cofvkqoyd5w@ivaldir.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:43:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_6B45A323-91E0-48AE-AA22-B9630AB29508 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 27 Oct 2020, at 16:47, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >=20 > I would like to switch the default locale to C.UTF-8 in FreeBSD 13.0 >=20 > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26973 >=20 > The C.UTF-8 locales is the same as the actual C locale except it does = support > the unicode character set. But the collation (aka how sort is being = done) etc > are still the same as the C locale. >=20 > What opinion on the matter? It's certainly an improvement, as long as we are sure that no scripting (either in the base system or in ports) breaks because of this. That said, we might also need to bite the bullet, and figure out how to set an actual language in the installer, or during system bootup. The rest of the world (aka Linux) already sets e.g. LANG=3Den_US.UTF-8. -Dimitry --Apple-Mail=_6B45A323-91E0-48AE-AA22-B9630AB29508 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.2 iF0EARECAB0WIQR6tGLSzjX8bUI5T82wXqMKLiCWowUCX5hOKAAKCRCwXqMKLiCW ozg5AKD9KY9QxO38Ot3qmoWsnLMi+XO31QCgw1xsbuak3yZty3ShjKDvT94jBqc= =BebI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_6B45A323-91E0-48AE-AA22-B9630AB29508--